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Reply #15 - Jan 20th, 2005 at 8:01pm
 
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Great job! I think you have a wonderful start here.

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I agree with what you said.  For the most basic of sites a person can get away with a WYSIWYG editor.  I am a believer in adhering to the standards set forth by the w3c. Most WYSIWYG editors output trash code that doesn't adhere to standards and in the case of Frontpage...uses proprietary html extensions and elements.  This creates a terrible mess.  That's why I like DreamWeaver MX 2004 and NVu.  They output, for the most part, standard markup and coding.  I've designed/developed/implemented sites for quite a few years now and I always adhere to standards.  If it causes problems with how a site is rendered then I find a workaround.   To be honest, I don't like flashy sites..hehe.   I guess my viewpoint is influenced by having to deal with sites created with non standard coding and bad editors.  Going in...cleaning up.  It's caused me enough headaches over the years.  I had to get out of the web design biz.  No one wanted to pay you what the jobs were worth.  Bussiness use to be very very good.

NVu is a great editor and I recommend it to those of you that want to use a WYSIWYG editor and design your own site.   Some of the most simplistic designs can be the most elegant and eye pleasing.  Just remember that.  Also, if any of you need any help or advice just let me know.  I'm sure one of us here with web design experience can help out.  I'm even willing to help out with coding and graphics editing if you need it.  I have Macromedia Studio MX 2004, Adobe Photoshop 7, and a variety of 3d rendering and sound editing applications.
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Reply #16 - Jan 20th, 2005 at 8:06pm
 
yep, I used DW MX 2004 to build and maintain WR.  But then again, I used to own a web shop, so it was paid for...otherwise I would have to find something much cheaper.  Wink
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Reply #17 - Jan 20th, 2005 at 8:10pm
 
Yes, it is rather expensive.  Hard work designing and coding these typs of applications though.  Programmers don't get nearly enough compensation if you ask me.
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Reply #18 - Jan 21st, 2005 at 10:06pm
 
Chris
  I check the providers site and it says that each email account can have up to 10 Megabytes of personnal web space.  Is that a lot?
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Reply #19 - Jan 21st, 2005 at 11:52pm
 
That's plenty for what you need Philip.  The entire photo sharing area is only about 11 megs and it has over 200 pictures.
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Reply #20 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 12:23am
 
  I have been looking at some of the Personal web pages hosted by the provider and so far I must say I am not impressed.  I don't know if I could do any better though.  There is one format that keeps coming up and it looks so...
  I know it is free and it is good experience for me but I am hesitant to do it.  I guess I am just a bit nervous and afraid of how bad I will make myself look.  Pretty Stupid huh?
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Reply #21 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 5:01am
 
Hi Phillip, not stupid at all,I used the AOL free one which is compiled with 123-publish and it looks like somethng my 5 year old daughter may have done, I do use MSN groups but dont know how to make mine stand out.
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Reply #22 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 6:18am
 
Go for it and don't worry about how it makes you look.  New things are good for the mind and soul... hehe.  I try and learn/do something new every week.
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Reply #23 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 8:28am
 
Hey Philip, give it a try and just don't give the link out until you are comfortable.  If you don't give the link out, people can't see it and you can't feel weird about it.

Think of it another way, turning was something you found interesting, you wanted to try and I'm sure the first time or two you felt like whatever you made would probably look lame to others.  But, you tried anyway and with work and practice you gladly share your work now and get some good feedback on it.  Web is the same thing, you'll never know until you try.  Give it a go and if it doesn't work out, at least you'll learn a few new things. 

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Reply #24 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 8:09pm
 
What a great fatherly way to say it Chris!
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Reply #25 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 8:20pm
 
OKay I started but don't expect me to show it to anyone real soon.   What they have to work with is supposed to be easy to use, yeah right, if your a Phd in computer programming.  What I would not give for some classroom education on how to do this.
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Reply #26 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 9:12pm
 
Phil, play with it.  You can not break it.  I thought I would never figure out how to post my pics to the site.  Once I figured out that I had to upload my pics to the gallery and then to the site, ah-ha.  Then the only obsticle was to have the patience to wait while the pics uploaded twice.  The only thing worse than having to wait, is to have to wait twice. Roll Eyes
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Reply #27 - Jan 23rd, 2005 at 2:29am
 
Alright, here is what I got so far.  But believe it or not, it doesn't look like I can go much further, doesn't seem to be a lot of flexibility built into this way of doing it.  The providers help pages said this was the easiest way to go for people with no experience and this gave me fits but now after just one night of playing with it I've realized the limitations of the program.  AND it just looks so cheap.  Well here is the link, don't say I didn't warn you.

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Reply #28 - Jan 23rd, 2005 at 2:41am
 
Phillip, check your guestbook!!! It looks good to me, much better than I have acheived!
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Reply #29 - Jan 23rd, 2005 at 3:45am
 
Philip it looks good to me.  I would be happy with it.  Of course I would be happy just to be able to take pictures like you.
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