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Reply #15 - May 26th, 2005 at 6:15pm
 
Don't think that would work.  The term is not new.  Rather it has been in use for at least 30 years.  Came into vogue shortly after "Bogarting" went out of common usage. 

UhOh, I think I'm dating myself now.    Undecided

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Reply #16 - May 26th, 2005 at 6:21pm
 

Welcome aboard, John. Sounds like you and I have a certain piece of equipment in common, including how we acquired them. 8)

Being a comparative "old geezer" from the earlier days of Rock 'n Roll, I have to say I recall 2 songs from back then using the term "jones" in that context: one was titled "Love Jones" but I don't recall who did it, the other was a spoof of the first called " Basketball Jones", perhaps done by Cheech and Chong. In any case, it kind of lets Ned and Gill off the hook. Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - May 26th, 2005 at 7:21pm
 
As for what Ned meant by the term "Jonesing", you would need to query him. I presume it has something to do with my posting about Powermatic wood lathes. I will eventually gather in enough information to make what I feel is an educated decision, and buy the lathe that suits me best. I never heard of the "Jones" references that Rev and Lee mentioned, but I am only 60 years young. Jones is a good old Welsh name, and has had no problem standing the tests of time; I reckon a Colombian/American, Californian, and the abbots of St. Gallen will be a breeze.
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Reply #18 - May 26th, 2005 at 7:26pm
 
"Keeping up with the Joneses."

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Reply #19 - May 26th, 2005 at 7:33pm
 
Welcome tuslog27. You 've stumbled onto a great bunch here.

Rev - I was wondering, how come a Reverend knows about "bogarting"?
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Reply #20 - May 26th, 2005 at 7:54pm
 
Even I have a past.  Why do you think I wear those shades?   8)
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Reply #21 - May 26th, 2005 at 8:07pm
 
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Reply #22 - May 27th, 2005 at 12:36am
 
As a humble brit, I have no idea re Bogarting, Jonesing or anything else, please educate me!
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Reply #23 - May 27th, 2005 at 3:16am
 
Welcome Aboard your in good hands here!!!!!
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Reply #24 - May 27th, 2005 at 7:16am
 
echo bill
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Reply #25 - May 27th, 2005 at 7:16pm
 
"Keeping up with the Joneses" = I got to have what the neighbors have so that they don't look more successful than I do.  If my friend Phil gets a PM, then I can't be left with my puny brand x lathe, so I'll do most anything to get the PM.  Wait a minute, he did get a PM and I am stuck with a mini.  Just kidding.  I'm really proud of Phil and his ability to have a pretty nice lathe in his shop.

"Bogarting" = being stingy or hogging something that is being shared with me by someone else.  For example, I come into a stock pile of maple burl.  I offer to share some with my buddy.  He comes over and begins taking out the very best pieces.  He may even take more than what is left for me to use. 

Keith, does that explaination do justice?   8)
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Reply #26 - May 27th, 2005 at 7:50pm
 
Helped me out.  I knew the keeping up witht joneses thing but nothing about the bogarting thing.  Thanks Rev.
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Reply #27 - May 27th, 2005 at 7:54pm
 
Just sharing where I can.   8)
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Reply #28 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 4:17am
 
Okay, came across this Joneses: to Keep up with...to endeavour to keep up financially and socially with one's friends and neighbors.

From a 1913 comic strip called "keepin up with the Joneses." Was run for 28 years. Written by Arthur R. Momand, who based it on his own families struggle to manage on a limited budget, wilst keeping up a show of material affluence in keeping with the neighbourhood.

Couldn't find Bogarting yet.

Okay, found it.
# Excerpted from WordOrigins.org:

"Several people have emailed me asking how Humphrey Bogart's name became associated with a term meaning selfishness. Ah, how soon we forget the intricacies of '60s drug culture. The selfish connotation comes from hogging a marijuana cigarette. Someone who kept the joint in their mouth, hanging from their lip like Bogey, would be bogarting the joint. Instead of bogarting, one should pass it on to another. The term can be used for hoarding items other than pot."

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#  (100%, 1 rating) submitted by Joel Lyons (A+, 100%, 22 ratings), Apr 26, 05

"Don't Bogart That Joint My Friend," by The Fraternity of Man
was on the Easy Rider Movie Soundtrack:

Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.

Roll another one
Just like the other one.
This one's burnt to the end
Come on and be a friend.

Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.

Ro-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oll another one
Just like the other one.
You've been hanging on to it
And I sure would like a hit.

Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me
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Re: New guy here
Reply #29 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 4:53am
 
Well Nappen, That pretty much answers any and all questions about those two terms!! LOL
   Welcome aboard Tuslog, youll find alot of info and help here, mebbe more than ya want!!
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