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May 26th, 2005 at 12:24pm
 
Hi Folks,

Just started turning.  Need help.  I will be asking a lot of questions. I hope you don't mind.

Live south of San Francisco.  Semi retired.  I enjoy doing intarsia and would like to get into turning.  I have a old Craftsman lathe that I got for free. 

best regards

John G.    Cheesy
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Reply #1 - May 26th, 2005 at 12:29pm
 
Welcome and that is the best kind of lathe, until you get jonesing for a big powermatic or oneway!

Feel free to ask anything, the folks here love to answer questions and never make you feel bad for asking.
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Reply #2 - May 26th, 2005 at 12:32pm
 
Glad to have you with us.  We're pretty frendly around here and don't stand on too much pomp or circumstance.  As Ned said, we love to answer questions, sometimes we'll even give you the right answer.  I look forward to learning more about you and your turning.   8)
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Reply #3 - May 26th, 2005 at 2:18pm
 
Welcome to the WR forum John.  If you're anything like the typical person "investigating" woodturning it's only a matter of time until you're addicted.  Intarsia is similar to segmented turning in theory, so it'll be interesting to see if you go that direction.

On another note, where abouts near SF?  I grew up in San Jose and Livermore and know the bay area well.  I know a few turners in your area and there are a couple of clubs you could hook up with to learn from.

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Reply #4 - May 26th, 2005 at 2:27pm
 
Hi Chris,

I live in Daly City (right next door to S.F.).  I do like doing intarsia.  Since I got the lathe free along with faceplates and turning tools I would love to try and turn bowls etc etc.

I find that working with wood is very relaxing.

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Reply #5 - May 26th, 2005 at 2:41pm
 
Hey John, I know exactly where Daly City is...only 6-7 hours from me.    Wink

You have a couple of choices in woodturning clubs sort of near you...worth the drive once a month for the meetings to learn hands on:

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Do you ever venture down to L.A.?
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Reply #6 - May 26th, 2005 at 2:47pm
 
Welcome John; ask away, someone will know what the answer is.
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Reply #7 - May 26th, 2005 at 3:06pm
 
Welcome John, I think that you picked the right group.  Lots of friendly people who range from beginners to past masters at turning.  Turns out to be a great learning situation as well as lots of laughs.  We have chat sessions on Tuesday and Sunday evenings also. 

Oh, by the way, Ned (Nappen) coined a word:  "Jonesing."  But I'll ask Gil (Jones) to elucidate. 

Gil?

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Reply #8 - May 26th, 2005 at 3:12pm
 
Hey Jim,

Jonesing: verb, meaning to jones...to yearn for something due to addiction.  example: "Jim was jonesing for time at the lathe."

Cheesy;)
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Reply #9 - May 26th, 2005 at 3:21pm
 
Chris,

Every year wife and I take the grandkids (trolls) to DisneyLand.
Always in November.  We spend  a week in the area.

I have been surfing through the web site, very informative.
the pictures of what you folks have done are fantastic.  If i could do 50% of what is shown I would be really happy.

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Reply #10 - May 26th, 2005 at 3:24pm
 
And to all the other folks who welcomed me to the forum.

THANKS for the kind words.

Best regards

John Glennon

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Reply #11 - May 26th, 2005 at 3:45pm
 
Time and practice John, that's all it takes...that and the four rules:

1.  Make the wood spin (otherwise you're wood carving)
2.  Rub the bevel
3.  Don't get hurt (otherwise you can't do the first two)
4.  Have fun!!!  Cheesy
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Reply #12 - May 26th, 2005 at 5:05pm
 
Welcome to the group, John.

Here's something every turner will attest to for most of your cuts;

A - Anchor the tool to the tool rest
B - Rub the Bevel where you want to cut, then
C - Cut the wood

Oh, always wear safety equipment

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Reply #13 - May 26th, 2005 at 5:39pm
 
Welcome John!  Always glad to have new folks come on board.  One word of warning...  woodturning is highly addictive.  It may seem like a fun, relaxing way to kill time but it VERY addicting.  And once you start turning bowls out of green wood, you will never look at a tree the same way.  Good luck and welcome aboard!
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Reply #14 - May 26th, 2005 at 5:44pm
 
Chris, I do thank you for your personal etymology of that verb Jonesing.  But it seems to me that, along with the concept of "wanting," there might  be the nuance of "moving up" as in "moving up" (to the eastside), or "moving up"( to a PM or a Oneway).  I think that it is terribly important that we kick this horse until it keels over, and I respectfully submit that the author of the participle, Ned, as well as as subject of same, Gil, should lead the discussion.  The rights to the word, of course, should belong in part to the WR Forum; maybe 50% or so.
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Reply #15 - May 26th, 2005 at 6:15pm
 
Don't think that would work.  The term is not new.  Rather it has been in use for at least 30 years.  Came into vogue shortly after "Bogarting" went out of common usage. 

UhOh, I think I'm dating myself now.    Undecided

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Reply #16 - May 26th, 2005 at 6:21pm
 

Welcome aboard, John. Sounds like you and I have a certain piece of equipment in common, including how we acquired them. 8)

Being a comparative "old geezer" from the earlier days of Rock 'n Roll, I have to say I recall 2 songs from back then using the term "jones" in that context: one was titled "Love Jones" but I don't recall who did it, the other was a spoof of the first called " Basketball Jones", perhaps done by Cheech and Chong. In any case, it kind of lets Ned and Gill off the hook. Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - May 26th, 2005 at 7:21pm
 
As for what Ned meant by the term "Jonesing", you would need to query him. I presume it has something to do with my posting about Powermatic wood lathes. I will eventually gather in enough information to make what I feel is an educated decision, and buy the lathe that suits me best. I never heard of the "Jones" references that Rev and Lee mentioned, but I am only 60 years young. Jones is a good old Welsh name, and has had no problem standing the tests of time; I reckon a Colombian/American, Californian, and the abbots of St. Gallen will be a breeze.
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Reply #18 - May 26th, 2005 at 7:26pm
 
"Keeping up with the Joneses."

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Reply #19 - May 26th, 2005 at 7:33pm
 
Welcome tuslog27. You 've stumbled onto a great bunch here.

Rev - I was wondering, how come a Reverend knows about "bogarting"?
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Reply #20 - May 26th, 2005 at 7:54pm
 
Even I have a past.  Why do you think I wear those shades?   8)
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I understand completely.
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Reply #22 - May 27th, 2005 at 12:36am
 
As a humble brit, I have no idea re Bogarting, Jonesing or anything else, please educate me!
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Welcome Aboard your in good hands here!!!!!
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echo bill
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Reply #25 - May 27th, 2005 at 7:16pm
 
"Keeping up with the Joneses" = I got to have what the neighbors have so that they don't look more successful than I do.  If my friend Phil gets a PM, then I can't be left with my puny brand x lathe, so I'll do most anything to get the PM.  Wait a minute, he did get a PM and I am stuck with a mini.  Just kidding.  I'm really proud of Phil and his ability to have a pretty nice lathe in his shop.

"Bogarting" = being stingy or hogging something that is being shared with me by someone else.  For example, I come into a stock pile of maple burl.  I offer to share some with my buddy.  He comes over and begins taking out the very best pieces.  He may even take more than what is left for me to use. 

Keith, does that explaination do justice?   8)
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Reply #26 - May 27th, 2005 at 7:50pm
 
Helped me out.  I knew the keeping up witht joneses thing but nothing about the bogarting thing.  Thanks Rev.
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Reply #27 - May 27th, 2005 at 7:54pm
 
Just sharing where I can.   8)
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Reply #28 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 4:17am
 
Okay, came across this Joneses: to Keep up with...to endeavour to keep up financially and socially with one's friends and neighbors.

From a 1913 comic strip called "keepin up with the Joneses." Was run for 28 years. Written by Arthur R. Momand, who based it on his own families struggle to manage on a limited budget, wilst keeping up a show of material affluence in keeping with the neighbourhood.

Couldn't find Bogarting yet.

Okay, found it.
# Excerpted from WordOrigins.org:

"Several people have emailed me asking how Humphrey Bogart's name became associated with a term meaning selfishness. Ah, how soon we forget the intricacies of '60s drug culture. The selfish connotation comes from hogging a marijuana cigarette. Someone who kept the joint in their mouth, hanging from their lip like Bogey, would be bogarting the joint. Instead of bogarting, one should pass it on to another. The term can be used for hoarding items other than pot."

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"Don't Bogart That Joint My Friend," by The Fraternity of Man
was on the Easy Rider Movie Soundtrack:

Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.

Roll another one
Just like the other one.
This one's burnt to the end
Come on and be a friend.

Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.

Ro-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oll another one
Just like the other one.
You've been hanging on to it
And I sure would like a hit.

Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me
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Reply #29 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 4:53am
 
Well Nappen, That pretty much answers any and all questions about those two terms!! LOL
   Welcome aboard Tuslog, youll find alot of info and help here, mebbe more than ya want!!
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Reply #30 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 8:57pm
 
welcome tuslog27 I am new here also.Have really enjoyed my time here so far.Hope you enjoy youreself too.Everyone here is really friendly.
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Reply #31 - Sep 11th, 2005 at 4:52pm
 
Sorry about the confusion, Tuslog posted the original post back in May. I just came across the origin of Jonesing and remembered the thread.
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