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Aug 16th, 2005 at 7:27pm
 
First the gloat, I've been asked to demo at the state fair this year.  I had several choices in times, but chose the 6 pm slot on the next to last night of the fair (which happens to be Saturday night).  As I remember, Chris, it was at an extended demo that you said your turning took off.  Don't know what is going to happen, but here's for hoping something takes off.  Got to get some cards made up for folks to take with them.

Second, the question.  I'll be working on a Jet mini.  Same size as my Mercury, so face plates, chucks, etc. won't be an issue.  I have the thought to turn 2 items, a pen and a platter/plate.  So what do you think, turn the plate first and then a cob pen?  Or, turn a wood pen with the plate afterward?  Either way I believe it will make an interesting and educating demo.  Just wondered what you might thing would be most interesting.   8)
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Reply #1 - Aug 16th, 2005 at 10:56pm
 
Rev, if you will be up on a stage and the crowd will have to watch from any kind of a distance, ditch the pen and start with a green wood bowl.  The shavings flying will attract a crowd, then you can hit them with the platter, turn it to finish and you will probably have a sale before you're done.  If you can, use Camphor for the green wood bowl...now that will attract a huge crowd.  I used camphor to start each day of my demo and people from 2 halls over were coming to me, attracted by the smell.
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Reply #2 - Aug 16th, 2005 at 11:06pm
 
Doug
  If you need a piece of camphor, I can help you out.  I still have that big chunk I got from Gil.  I am sure we can work out something.  What is the exact date of your Demo, this Saturday or next?
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Reply #3 - Aug 17th, 2005 at 4:58am
 
Hey Rev, congratulations on the invitation to demonstrate at the state fair.  Wow.  That's recognition in itself. 

As to your modus operandi, well, Chris has all of the right ideas it seems to me.  His good experience has shown him (and us), that even for this sort of thing (turning in public), along with great skill, Billy Shakespeare's lines are still applicable:

"All the world's a stage and the people in it are merely players"

Good luck with the demo.  Wish I could be there.

You will be taking some stuff along to sell, right?

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Reply #4 - Aug 17th, 2005 at 12:59pm
 
The collective thought here is just the best.  

Phil, if you can part with it, I think I could use a piece of that camphor you are offering.  About 7 1/2" diameter is it for the Jet mini.  If it is 2-3" thick I could make a plate with it, no problem.  That ought to get their ofactories going.  Also, it is the 27th, the next to last day of the fair.  I'll get the location and post later.

Chris, your idea of flying chips reminded me that I got a couple of apple pieces that I still have.  Love the way apple sends ribbons flying over the shoulder.  And, so smooth to cut.  What a blast that could be.

Starting to look like I could get three pieces done.  
Depends on how many questions there are and how well I'm able to talk and work at the same time.  Guess I need to figure some finish to take along as well.

Jim, I don't think it is that kind of deal.  I'll double check on it, but I don't believe we are allowed to sell from the demonstration stage.  I am going to have some cards made up by then so that folks can get in touch with me though.  Besides, all my sellable stuff is in a gallery already.  It's not selling and I need to remove it, but it is not in my posession currently.

Thanks guys.   I appreciate the advice and encouragement.  8)
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Reply #5 - Aug 17th, 2005 at 1:19pm
 
Rev, take a photo album of your currently "available" work and set that near the work area.  I couldn't sell in person at mine either so the album gave interested parties something to look at and see what they could buy.  It's also a good reference for people who become interested in turning at your demo to see what finished pieces look like.
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Reply #6 - Aug 17th, 2005 at 1:24pm
 
Yet another good idea.   8)
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Reply #7 - Aug 17th, 2005 at 2:28pm
 
Rev, another thought that comes to mind, take some small turning squares with you.  If you have extra time or get bored with bowls, turn a couple of tops and give them to kids in the crowd. It puts your work in their hands (the adults will inevitably ask to see them) and the kids love them.
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Reply #8 - Aug 18th, 2005 at 12:05am
 
I really can't add much to the above discussion except offer my congrats. Well deserved.
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Reply #9 - Aug 18th, 2005 at 9:59am
 
Congratulations Rev!  Take lots of green wood bowl blanks.  People like to see lots of action like shavings flying.   Shocked   You will go through more blanks then you think.  I demonstrate regularly at the local Rockler Woodworking store.  My bigest crowds are when I'm turning a bowl with the chips flyin'.  Folks don't show as much interest when you are doing something small like a box or a pen.  

And it's great fun.  I always come away from demos "pumped up."  Grin

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Reply #10 - Aug 22nd, 2005 at 1:19pm
 
Just got the word, no sales allowed. Cry  Green and smelly wood is fine though, even encouraged.  Looks like 2 or 3 platters on the way while demoing in front of what could be the largest crowd I've ever turned in front of.  That's ok though, I'm kind of used to being in front of crowds.   8)
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Reply #11 - Aug 22nd, 2005 at 4:44pm
 
Congradulations Rev I know you will knock them out with an outstanding performance.  I have no other ideas that haven't been mentioned.  Good Luck
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Reply #12 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 2:18pm
 
Hey Rev, that's usually the way but I think we've given you a few ideas to 'bend' the rules.  Worst case, pass out business cards.  Have fun with it and don't worry about the crowd, you'll be too busy with turning to even notice them.
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Reply #13 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 8:46am
 
Have 5 blanks almost ready to go.  They include; camphor, apple, mahogany, walnut, and one mystery wood that I'm not quite sure what the devil it is.  Maybe I can figure it out when I turn it.  I may go wild and get a red "cedar" blank ready.  Then I'll have more than enough to keep me busy.  I've been told that I will get lots of questions and that I need to stop and talk about what I'm doing along the way.  Makes good sense to me.  I think I'm supposed to be plugging the club as well.  
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Reply #15 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 5:22pm
 
Between the camphor and the cedar you should draw a crowd just from the aroma. That is unless they set you up too close to the cow, pig, and sheep exhibits.
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Reply #16 - Aug 25th, 2005 at 4:09am
 
Sorry I won't be able to be there Doug, I hope you have fun, just remember that the crowd is there to watch you turn  Wink.  Might want to keep the Amens reserved for when you are able to successfully complete what your working on.  
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Reply #17 - Aug 25th, 2005 at 7:44am
 
If that Camphor is really green, it won't matter what Rev is next to, the wood smell will over-power anything.  I had a small pile of shavings in my garage from a green piece I turned and for the first 3 days you could smell it at the street with the garage all closed up!
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Reply #18 - Aug 25th, 2005 at 9:31am
 
Yep, it is powerful stuff. I love that Camphor smell, but at times it toooo much and I must leave or open a window..
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Reply #19 - Aug 25th, 2005 at 10:26am
 
Connie doesn't even want my son around the garage when I'm turning camphor.  She's sure that it can't be good for him to be around because of the STRONG smell.  Got it and a piece of apple ready for the glue block.  Will complete three others and get the glue blocks glued on tonight.  I'm getting more excited each day as it gets closer and closer.   8)
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Reply #20 - Aug 27th, 2005 at 8:04pm
 
Just walked into the house.  The demo went very well.  The camphor did indeed bring them in. 

I was wondering what the folks would be like.  2 sessons before me was a guy selling his liquid fertilizer.  After him, just before me, was a lady talking about saving money on energy costs.  Tried to claim that mowing with a lawn mower used more gas and created more polution than driving for 2 hours.  Let's see, a quart of gas vs 5-10 gal. ... I don't think so.

I probably had 25-30 that stayed with me the entire 2 hours and another 60 or so that wondered in and out.  They were all amazed and a few asked questions.  One woman wanted to know what it would take for her husband to get into turning.   

I turned 4 pieces; camphor, apple, and 2 walnuts.  Got some nice ribbons off the apple, but not like I wanted.  It had dried a lot since the other day.  Did get a few though, enough to let them see the difference between green (sort of) and dry. 

All in all, I'm real glad I did it and will again next year if I get a chance.  Lots of work and lots of fun.  Don't know if I can stand to do another camphor piece or not, but I'm sure this group can come up with something.     8)
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Reply #21 - Aug 27th, 2005 at 8:19pm
 
Sounds like the two ahead of you were both selling one form or another of BS. Also sounds like you did very well if you were able to keep 30 folks interested for a couple hours. Especially if you were competing with the tractor pulls, demolition derby, etc. Way to go Rev. I would have loved to have been there to watch!
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Reply #22 - Aug 27th, 2005 at 8:37pm
 
Never been miked when I was turning before.  Also had one of those big mirrors over head so that the audience had two views.  Pretty cool.   8)
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Reply #23 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 12:40am
 
Doug
  Glad to hear you had a good time and that everything went well.  Knowing my luck, I would have gotten a big catch and had sent a piece flying, totally embarrassing myself.
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Reply #24 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 3:43am
 
Great to hear Rev. Glad it went well. What an experience.

I am with Phil, I would have launched one into the crowd.

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Congratulations, Rev. A demo is great fun.

FYI, I did mine with my Trend on, and the clip-on mic was inside of it to pickup my speech. Problem was that the mic also picked up the sound of the air fan and motor. The folks said that they could hardly hear me talk.
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Reply #26 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 7:29am
 
As to launching a piece, I thought that I might.  One of my blanks had a gap between the blank and the glue block.  My screws did not go all the way through the block and into the blank, so I warned them.  Everything stayed together though.

I don't think that I ever would have used a trend for a demo.  Might convey a hazardous risk to those watching who did not have protection.  I did use my Dust-Be-Gone mask when turning the walnut pieces.  Told them that I didn't like blowing black out of my nose for the nest 2 days.  They seemed to understand. 

Only tripped on the mike cord once  Embarrassed.  Never went down though. 
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Reply #29 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 8:51am
 
Congrats on a successfull demo Rev!  Glad everything stayed in one piece for ya.  If you didn't get anyone looking to buy, just remember those fair goers ususally aren't the ones with the big bucks your stuff deserves.  But you did get woodturning out there for folks to see, and maybe one more for the vortex?
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Great going Rev glad it all worked out.  I know everyone enjoyed your show.
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Hey Rev, nice to hear of your success (which no one doubted) on the turning demo.  Two hours?  Wow, though time flies when you are having fun.  The satisfaction level must compare to the one you get when you give a particularly successful sermon.  After thirty some years of teaching (and giving a "sermon" or two on some literature topic), I remember that sometimes the success level was particularly gratifying.  And I am sure they will invite you next year. 
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Reply #33 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 9:12am
 
Hey Rev,  Congrats on a good demo.  Camphor works everytime.  Aromatic Cedar works well also.  What you need to practice for next year is being able to control where your ribbons go...people get a kick out of a paper thin ribbon flowing over the lathe and into the crowd.  I had one heckler who 'thought' he knew all about turning and kept giving me grief for about 30 minutes.  I finally decided I was done with his noise and showered him in shavings.  The crowd got a kick out of it.
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I don't know if this is the right place to post this "gloat" of mine but here goes. Last week I donated a piece over on WoodCentral for a Katrina Hurricane Benefit Auction (auction #18 ). Although it only brought one bid it was for 50 bucks, to go to the Red Cross via WoodCentral. Then this weekend I donated 3 pieces, a natural edge box elder bowl, a walnut potpourri dish, and a bocote duck call, to the Ogden Nature Center fundraiser benefit and auction. The bowl brought $48, the dish $32 and the duck call $28. That's almost $150 total which is more than I could have given in cash myself. I've never sold or even tried to sell anything before but it made me feel pretty good that folks were willing to cough up their hard earned cash for some of my stuff. Anyway, how's that for a gloat!
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Re: Small Gloat/Big Question
Reply #39 - Sep 11th, 2005 at 7:43pm
 
Bravo!  More power to you.  It shows that people really see the value of the work you are doing.

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Re: Small Gloat/Big Question
Reply #40 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 5:16am
 
Well done Curt.  I did see your piece on WC, and was going to bid on it myself, but the auction closed before I got a chance.  There are still some great pieces over there.
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