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Aug 19th, 2005 at 12:39am
 
Hey gang,

the bracelet tutorial is online in the projects area:

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I must say there are some pretty good photos with this article...  Wink  I think I am getting the hang of this.
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Reply #1 - Aug 19th, 2005 at 1:48am
 
Nice Job, Chris, I will try it when I get some time.
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Reply #2 - Aug 19th, 2005 at 2:54am
 
I tried doing a quick one just now and had so so results.  I had a problem like Chris did and my small Delta set parting tool tip snapped off didn't have quite the calamity Chris did but I will need to regrind the tip.  I lost about one inch of it.  The bracelet  isn't real great but then I didn't really put a lot of effort into it.  Good experinment though and my daughter wil love it.
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Reply #3 - Aug 19th, 2005 at 5:26am
 
Nice pics indeed, Chris, and a very well laid out process.

Here's something you might want to edit:

' (The parting tool I am using is part of the Delta micro tools set, 1 1/16" thick x 1/4" wide blade)'

That's a pretty thick parting tool.   Wink
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Reply #4 - Aug 19th, 2005 at 7:19am
 
Chris, thank you very much. Easy to follow.
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Reply #5 - Aug 19th, 2005 at 8:16am
 
Thanks guys, and thanks for the catch/edit Rick, I'll fix that now.
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Reply #6 - Aug 20th, 2005 at 1:39am
 
 Another idea for cutting the round blanks is to use a circle cutter.  I just thought of that tonight and am gonna try it later today.  You can if you are careful cut both inner and outer diameters.  Here is a thought, has anyone ever used a circle cutter mounted in a tailstock.  You know what I mean right? the drill chuck on a morse taper.  Has anyone ever tried it?  
 Doug, you want to give it a try when you come by later today?  Maybe we can make one up for your wife and see how it works.  
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Reply #7 - Aug 21st, 2005 at 12:58am
 
 Well, I wasn't able to get it a full workout with the circle cutter yet.  I found a piece of old dogwood about the right size and using the circle cutter managed to cut about 1/2" into it before bottoming out on the cutter.  It did give me a good guide for cutting it out the rest of the way on the bandsaw and also gave me a good round surface on which to clamp the chuck jaws too (That was a big plus for me).  
 I am still curious to see if a circle cutter mounted in a tailstock chuck  (do they call them Jacobs chucks?) will work.  
 I will have to admit, these bracelets are making me real popular around my house with my two daughters  Grin which in turn makes the wife happy which in turn means she will let me turn more  Grin Grin.  
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Reply #8 - Aug 21st, 2005 at 7:04am
 
Sure, if they are made by the Jacobs Chuck Mfg. Co.
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Reply #9 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 8:10am
 
Chris,
  For your wooden jaws, what demensions did you use...I understand the diameter needs to match the jaws, but what about length?

Just curious, before I attempt a set.
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Reply #10 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 9:41am
 
The base plate is the same thickness as regular jaws, I believe 1/4", then there is 1 inch of transition, then the actual gripping part is about 1 1/4" or so.  Overall height of the jaws is about 2 1/2" finished, after truing and such.
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Reply #11 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 10:06am
 
Don't forget the 'step' about an inch from the base so the bracelets don't travel to the base of the jaws.  On mine, I made an extra little cove on the other side of where the bracelets rest, for extra access to that side for shaping and sanding.  That was for the 3/4" size, you could do the same for other sizes as well.
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Reply #12 - Sep 6th, 2005 at 10:41am
 
Cool, I have that rubberwood that should have enough diameter, I will have to check.
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Reply #13 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 11:59am
 
I just thought of what you can do with the cores...make a smaller set of jaws and do napkin rings.
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Reply #14 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 3:53pm
 
Or do what Chris is doing, making matching pendant necklaces.
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Reply #15 - Sep 13th, 2005 at 3:50am
 
Yeah, but I haven't figured out how to turn those yet. Angry
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Reply #16 - Sep 14th, 2005 at 2:06am
 
Well,  I had to try a couple of these myself. They were all snatched up by my wife and daughter before I could even get a picture of them.
   I dont have a chuck (yet) so I had to resort to diffrent methods. I first bored the blank with a 3" hole saw  then did the inside with a 2 3/8 hole saw. I then mounted the piece on the longworth chuck and turned the inside and finish sanded. Then I took a scrap of 4x4 cypress and turned a taper on it from 2 1/4 to 2 5/8 in about 6 inches of length. Jam the braclet on the taper and turned the outside. It worked OK but has a tendency to come off the taper when turning the left side . I pushed one on a lil to much and broke it.
   Someday I'll get chuck
  I also found, depending on the wood, they are fairly fragile. My daughter wore the first one I made for 2 days until it broke when she hit it on something.
  My second one was laminated with 3 pieces (bloodwood, cypress, bloodwood) and I turned the grains perpendicular to each other at glue up. Seems alot stronger
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Reply #17 - Sep 14th, 2005 at 9:19am
 
Sky,  keep in mind grain orientation will make a huge difference in the strength, as will the relative strength of the wood and the thickness of the bracelet wall it self.

Your alternate method is a good one, but try this for the outsides:  mount a block up and turn a slightly tapered cylinder.  Then bore the cylinder out so that the walls are about 1/4".  Once bored out, make cuts down the length of the cylinder about 3/4 way down.  Then, turn a cone that will fit in the opening of the tapered cylinder and stop about 1/2 way up the cone.  When you put the bracelet on the cylinder, then the cone in the end, then bring the tailstock up against the cone and tighten.  The cone will force the "fingers" of the cylinder to open and thus tighten on the bracelet keeping it in place a bit better.
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Reply #18 - Sep 16th, 2005 at 4:55pm
 
Chris, I've got a question about the pendant.  What type of clasp did you end up using?  I couldn't really tell from any of the pics, and when I went to Hobby Lobby I didn't see anything that didn't entail tieing a knot on both end of the leather, which isn't what I was looking for.
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Reply #19 - Sep 16th, 2005 at 5:26pm
 
Thanks Spinner,
  I was thinkin of sumpin similar to that but that makes it more simple
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Reply #20 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 1:15pm
 
If you don't read Wood Central, there was a post by Wally Dickerman (a really fine turner, by the way), that shows some of the bracelets he made a while back.  Here's the link:

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Like SkyJ, he found that laminated bracelets were more durable than solid wood.

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Reply #21 - Sep 30th, 2005 at 1:24am
 
I used what ever I had laying around. About  1/4" thick stuff. Ive done a couple more  stacking 1/4" then 1/16, 1/4, 1/16, then 1/4 . I have a thickness planer so it only takes a second to run um thru and true them up.(BTW I DONT plane the 1/16" stuff!!.....1/8 is as small as I dare go, otherwise the planer just eats the wood!!) With them being laminated, they can be turned a bit thinner than the solid ones and still stay strong
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Reply #22 - Sep 30th, 2005 at 1:26am
 
WOW  those bracelets on that last link look just like mine!!
  BTW I finally broke down and bought a chuck......makes things much easier
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Reply #23 - Sep 30th, 2005 at 6:26am
 
Sky, were your 1/4" and 1/16" pieces resawn or pieces you bought somewhere.
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Reply #24 - Oct 1st, 2005 at 4:54pm
 
All from stock I have, resawn and planed if possible. If ya need some milled up Ide be glad to send ya sum. I have a bunch of bloodwood, mahogany, wormy chestnut,  Ipe, and cypress new growth and antique
( Fella I work with deals in Cypress timbers, I can get 12 x 12  cut offs up to 2' long)
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Reply #25 - Oct 1st, 2005 at 5:58pm
 
Thanks for the offer.  I've got the tools (bandsaw and planer), so I'll try some on my own.  Don't have the selection of timber you do though.  Sad
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Reply #26 - Oct 1st, 2005 at 8:08pm
 
SkyJ,  Wish I were closer, that Cypress sounds great.  I am trying to find some more Olive.

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Reply #27 - Oct 2nd, 2005 at 1:16am
 
I would not mind getting my hands on some of that cypress myself.  Shipping would be outrageously expensive for a piece that size.  Maybe next summer when I take my family to Disney World I can stop by and load up.
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Reply #28 - Oct 2nd, 2005 at 2:29am
 
Unfortunatley the cypress is usually soakin wet. I mean a moisture content of 50% or more,(seeing as most of it is either growing in water or salvaged from river bottoms) very unstable, and checks severly after turning or just cutting. Ive been workin with cypress for about 3 years now making cabinets and doors and furniture with it, and I hate it!! Ive had boards shrink (1x 12's 12' in length)  up to 1 1/2" longitude and 3/4' latitude. Soon learned I had to make everything with slip joints. A 12 x 12 x12 will weight 50- 60 lbs, 20 dry.  Cant kiln dry cypress either, only dehumidification kilns at the rate of 2" a year!!  Natural drying is at the rate of 1" per year. If any of you make it down this way..........I'll load ya up!! We have pallets just stacked with cutoffs, which I keep threating to toss in the dumpster.
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Reply #29 - Oct 2nd, 2005 at 7:30am
 
I don't know about all the stores, but the WoodCraft in Louisville carries Cypress knees most all the time.  They are dry as evidenced by the light weight.  I've thought several times about getting one to turn.  Just don't know what I'd have once I turned it.  SkyJ, got any pics you could post in the gallery?   8)
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Reply #30 - Oct 2nd, 2005 at 7:59am
 
Interesting idea Doug, we have Cypress knees all over the shoreline here. I was going to test one, and a friend said that I could just snap one off with a solid whack. The solid whack did not work, so I may need to go back with a handsaw and an armed alligator/snake lookout.
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Reply #31 - Oct 2nd, 2005 at 12:22pm
 
Well  RevDoug,
  We dont have "knees". All of our timber is either resawn or circular saw cut from the mills. I'm sure there is plenty of dry cypress out there, we just dont deal with it. As far as pics go, what are ya wantin to see?? The cutoffs we have stacked up??
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Reply #32 - Oct 2nd, 2005 at 12:25pm
 
Gil,
Ya best check if havesting knees is ok. From what I remember (things may have changed or yur situation may be different) cutting knees was prohibited.
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Reply #33 - Oct 2nd, 2005 at 2:20pm
 
Not pics of the scraps, but pics of pieces made of cyprus.  I don't think I've ever seen anything made of the stuff.  I have no idea what the grain looks like or anything.  While your thinking about it, how does the wood work?

Ain't it fun being the resident expert? (ex=has been, spert=a drip under pressure   Grin)   8)
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Reply #34 - Oct 2nd, 2005 at 2:22pm
 
The lake is gov. property, administered by the Army Corp of Engineers, so I imagine that cutting anything is a hanging offence. Next time I see the ranger I will ask.
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Reply #35 - Oct 3rd, 2005 at 1:43am
 
The square bowl in my pic gallery is new growth cypress. My employee ,Dan , turned his first piece out of antique sinker cypress. Ill post a pic of that. Working of the wood is a dream......if its dry. Green or wet wood is very stringy and  has alota tearout. End grain is hard to cut smooth also.
  Generally a very soft wood, not very dent resistant at all. But very stable and rot resistant ( when dry)
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Reply #36 - Oct 3rd, 2005 at 10:36am
 
Thanks, SkyJ.  That's exactely what I was looking for.  8)
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