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On captive rings
Aug 21st, 2005 at 6:07am
 
A walnut goblet I posted a while back had a small captive ring on it, and it was suggested that the ring could have had a bigger I.D.

The ring wasn't that hard to make.  I have a two pronged ring tool that helped me start out, and the final, breakoff cut was done with a skew point.

I agreed with the ID problem, so I took a scrap of 150G and wrapped it around the stem.  Then I twirled the ring around for a while (while watching Tommy Lee goes to College, required viewing here in Lincoln), and got a much better result.

Below is before/after shot of how it came out.  I think it's looking much better now.

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Reply #1 - Aug 21st, 2005 at 6:59am
 
Nice ring, Rick.
How about a (temporary) pic of the two-pronged ring tool?
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Reply #2 - Aug 21st, 2005 at 7:13am
 
I imagine that in Lincoln you watch what ever is available.  Anyway, about he ring, I thing it looks way better.  Not only is it looser on the stem, it looks more finished, like it is supposed to be there, not like a "happy accident," as it was called by a friendly artist on PBS days gone by.  Nice fix.   8)
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Reply #3 - Aug 21st, 2005 at 7:50am
 
Rev, I'll have you know that if I fold the aluminum just right, I can get 2 channels  Grin

Gil, here's the tool.  It's a Sorby 1/4", this shot is bevel side up.

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Reply #4 - Aug 21st, 2005 at 8:23am
 
If I am looking at the ring forming tool properly, it is a scraper that could also be used to make beads.
Thanks, looks pretty easy to make.
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Reply #5 - Aug 21st, 2005 at 10:53am
 
I think you're right Gil, it may have been actually sold as a bead making tool.  But the prongs help to get under the 'beads' and violaa, a captive ring.
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Reply #6 - Aug 22nd, 2005 at 8:30am
 
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Figured as much.   Grin

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Reply #7 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 2:30pm
 
Yep, that's a beading tool alright.  it will help with a captive ring for about 90% of it if you swing it left & right to undercut it a little bit.  You can make a 'ring freeing tool" fairly simply.  Just take anything that can be bend & sharpened, I used an old #1 size screwdriver, bend it to 90 degree and sharpen the end like a diamond point tool.
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Reply #8 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 4:53pm
 
LOL ,
  Thats weird chris, I made the same type tool from a short 1/4  chisel....I bent a curve on it then ground to a point....worked ok..................wish the the whole thing was longer than 5 inches tho!!!  hehehe  the neat thing was when I did catch(which I did many times) the chisel rotated in the handle right outa way of the piece which saved me from ducking flying tools...hehehe....Dont try this at home folks!!! I was kinda unaware of the power of the lathe at that point. I have since retired the tool to the "stupid Idea" rack. Undecided
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Reply #9 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 5:25pm
 
Yep, I rather figured that the bead tool would do most of the captive ring, but I would need a hook of some kind to free the ring without tearing up the stem.
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Reply #10 - Aug 25th, 2005 at 7:50am
 
I'll see if I can do a quick video on turning captive rings, they're actually pretty easy to turn once you see someone do it.
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Reply #11 - Aug 25th, 2005 at 9:28am
 
Thanks Chris. Smiley
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