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Ned A from South GA
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Oct 5th, 2005 at 3:32pm
 
I was actually turning a little a couple of days ago...finish turning a walnut bowl that had been calling my name...and I noticed that when finish turning the inside of the bowl and especially with finishing cuts I tend to watch the opposite side of the bowl as opposed to the tool and tool side.

Is this normal and akin to watching the "ghost" when shaping the outside?  I just seem to have a better feel and look for what is going on watching the other side.

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Reply #1 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 3:49pm
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 5:04pm
 
Im still new to this stuff and may not always do whats right (LOL  learned the other day Im usin most of my tools wrong!!) But , once I get the feel of the curve, whether it be the inside or outside, I watch some other point rather than the tool. It may be the opposite side or the quarter. when the tool is full of shavings, it kinda hard to see just what yur cuttin. I have a white piece of plastic guarding my shelf (behind the lathe)from sawdust that acts as a nice contrasting background to see the shape of the item Im turning. I always look over the top of the piece to see and shape the final cut. That is ,of course after I get the "point" on the tool rest for a consistant radius to swing, where as I dont havta look at the tool to see its position or placemant.
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Reply #3 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 5:10pm
 
You're doing it right Ned.  I have heard this from many turners much more experienced than myself.  Watching the tool really doesn't show you as much as watching the 'result'.  I always watcht he tool until I get the cut started and have confidence that the cut is going inthe right direction.  Then I look at the opposite side of the bowl.
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Reply #4 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 5:57pm
 
That was the first piece of advice that I got when I started turning, and it is one of the best.

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Reply #5 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 8:53pm
 
It's funny, but when I am doing the inside of a bowl, I am looking at the outside visualizing where the tool tip is relative to the outside.  So far I have been fairly close to what I estimate as the thickness, but I sure I am going to get one TOO thin like SkyJ showed earlier this week.  The natural edge bowls I have done have only been 1/8 or less in thickness.  All 3 of them.

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Reply #6 - Oct 6th, 2005 at 3:06am
 
Ned right on I also look at the ghost.
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Reply #7 - Oct 6th, 2005 at 4:33am
 
When I do the inside finish cuts, I look at the opposite side of the bowl to see what the cut is doing.  That's after I get the cut initiated and have the flow going, much like Sky mentioned.
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Reply #8 - Oct 6th, 2005 at 2:04pm
 
Good to know I am not out there flappin' as they say. Grin
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Reply #9 - Oct 6th, 2005 at 7:58pm
 
No flappin going on.  Just good turning.  Seeing the resulting cut is much more informative than seeing how big the pile of shavings is on your tool and hand.   8)
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Reply #10 - Oct 10th, 2005 at 5:46pm
 
I do both what Ned mentions and what JimQ brought up.  During the majority of the cut on the inside I am watching the outside form to make sure I am following the curve and as I progress I will double check the tool action to make sure I am getting a smooth cut.  You can really feel the action of the tool, so you know blind or not if the cut is coming out smooth, so I tend to watch the outside more, simply because with my pieces normally being pretty thin, if I don't watch the curve there is a higher chance that I will go through the side and that's no fun!
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Reply #11 - Oct 10th, 2005 at 6:19pm
 
What you are doing Ned is what most beginners can't do, ie, lay the tool to the wood and watch the result of the cut in relation to the rest of the piece.  Seems like one needs a lot of experience with tool technique to do that so that instead of watching the tool as to angle, bevel placement, etc., one feels those things and reacts automatically.  Isn't that more or less the way it is?  I think that I am just getting to that point.  You, Ned (and others) have obviously gotten there.  Leaves more concentration time for the whole matter of creation.  Technique gives way to art.
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