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Yet another beginner question?
Dec 23rd, 2005 at 7:32pm
 
I’ve acquired a used Nova chuck and four sets of jaws. The Allen screws holding the jaws were really tough to back out. An Allen wrench didn’t come with the chuck so I’m using one from a metric set that I have. I had to clamp a vise-grip on to the wrench in order to break them loose. Just how tight are these screws supposed to be? Do I need to invest in a special wrench? Thanks.
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Reply #1 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 7:40pm
 
Your screws were in way to tight...  I've got two supernovas, and use an allen wrench to tighten them up also, but nothing superhuman.  Just hand tighten.
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Reply #2 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 8:02pm
 
Thanks Rick, for the help. Is it your experience that the screws tighten or might back out during turning? As I am new, I'm still a wee bit skitish of something comming loose.
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Reply #3 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 8:39pm
 
You can buy a "T" handled Allen (hex) wrench (or sets of them) and make your life a tad easier. Mine are 3mm, and the T-handled Allen wrench is a perfect tool for it. Yours sound a bit too tight, though I do snug mine down firmly.
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Reply #4 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 8:41pm
 
Hi:
I use a plastic T handled allen wrench for mine.  I would think a regular allen wrench in that size would be pretty small and not give a lot of leverage.  The countersink that the screw head sits in seems to be a really good fit which generates a lot of friction to resist loosening the screw.  I probably do tend to overtighten them, just like everything else...  Smiley

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Reply #5 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 8:48pm
 
Thanks fellows, that "T" handle wrench sounds like what's needed.
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Reply #6 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 9:02pm
 
It is well worth the few extra bucks to get a quality set. The steel/heat treat in some of them is not up to the job.
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Reply #7 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 9:11pm
 
And, if the previous owner of the chuck was anything like me, I do a lot of finishing on the lathe so I end up glueing the screws into the chuck jaws with lacquer, etc. The Oneway Talon comes with a t-handle allen wrench that works well. Maybe contact Nova (Tecknatool) and see if you can get a replacement tool.
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Reply #8 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 9:45pm
 
i also have a nova chuck. mine came used with two regular allen wrenches. the first time i took them out, they were in very tight, when i put them back in, i just snugged em up, and i had no problems.. i change jaws fairly often, and don't have any problems.


three of my four sets of jaws are made to accept both screws. so if one starts to back out, it will probably feel funny, or throw the workpiece out of center just a touch or something.


i am more scared of the wood coming out of the nova than the jaws coming off.
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Reply #9 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 10:05pm
 
When I got my first Nova chuck, the screws were in so tight that I had to use a hardened 4mm allen wrench on a socket to loosen them.  It is much less likely to round its edges and strip out the hole in the screw if they ever get that tight again.  I replaced the slightly damaged screws and tighten them with a normal allen wrench.

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Reply #10 - Dec 24th, 2005 at 2:58am
 
I have the nova, just hand tighten. Directions say do not overtighten. I have never had a problem with them loosening.

Make sure the bottoms of the jaws and the groove is clean though, any dirt will leave some wobble in the jaw.

Don't think they will come loose unless you do a lot of reverse turning since the lathe turns left and the screws turn right to tighten.
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Reply #11 - Dec 24th, 2005 at 8:37am
 
I've never tightened the jaw screws very hard, and still I have a heck of a time loosening them when changing jaws. Fine dust, gunk, and maybe a little finish glues them in. I also have to clean out the allen key sockets in the screw heads, using the point of a drywall screw. if the key doesn't go in all the way something will give--either the socket, or the end of the key.
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Reply #12 - Dec 24th, 2005 at 10:08am
 
And, I think there's the fact that the jaws are very soft steel (so they don't destroy your tools if you nick them) and the screws are very hard. It makes them seat a lot tighter than you realize you're turning them.
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Reply #13 - Dec 24th, 2005 at 8:04pm
 
I only tighten till secure.  In my experience the screws don't come loose.  If you tighten too much in time the head of the screw can get damaged and you will have a bigger problem getting it out.  I hand tighten just a little bit and check periodically.  Never had a problem.
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Reply #14 - Dec 25th, 2005 at 1:25am
 
Definately just snug them down. I learned the hard way and now have to take the EZ-Out to my small PSI chuck. Been putting it off for a while, but need my smaller jaws for a project so gotta get it done.   

I don't remember putting them on tight the last time I swapped jaws, but that's what I tell my wife too about the caps on the soda bottles Grin.

Since I don't swap jaws very much, I have thought about using that anti-sieze stuff like you use on spark plugs and stuff. What do ya'll think of that?

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Reply #15 - Dec 25th, 2005 at 10:37am
 
Tecnatool recommends cleaning the threads and using a little oil to keep them from seizing.

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