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Nov 27th, 2009 at 3:06pm
 
Until I get some batteries for our other camera I have to use this one. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Basic info first my comp screen is set up for 800x600 I need big icons to see. I also use Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register as a editing software of my pics. When I took this pic here. I used the auto setting for focus.

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It was at arm length & when I tried to download it directly to WR it kept telling me the file was to big. Even after resizing it 4 times. SO I had to download it to my photobucket acct then post it as a thumbnail pic.

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1. what distance should pics be taken at?

2. I know it can't be over 100 something to download to WR how do I check to see what size it is? I got a tad pissed resizing it 4 times.

any other advice is appreciated.

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Re: Photography question.
Reply #1 - Nov 27th, 2009 at 3:38pm
 
I can't answer Question 1.

Q.2  You can get the size by right clicking on the pic and open 'Properties'.
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Reply #2 - Nov 27th, 2009 at 5:04pm
 
Or right click on pic/ open with/ microsoft office picture manager / picture/ compress/ for web page....should bring it down to about 50 - 60 kb.

Hope that makes sense... If you don't use microsoft it will not help at all. Undecided
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Reply #3 - Nov 27th, 2009 at 5:53pm
 
I cheat... email the photo to myself in hotmail... it automatically resizes to about 40...

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Reply #4 - Nov 27th, 2009 at 6:08pm
 
Chuck Beland wrote on Nov 27th, 2009 at 3:06pm:
Until I get some batteries for our other camera I have to use this one. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Basic info first my comp screen is set up for 800x600 I need big icons to see. I also use Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register as a editing software of my pics. When I took this pic here. I used the auto setting for focus.

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It was at arm length & when I tried to download it directly to WR it kept telling me the file was to big. Even after resizing it 4 times. SO I had to download it to my photobucket acct then post it as a thumbnail pic.

Questions are.

1. what distance should pics be taken at?

2. I know it can't be over 100 something to download to WR how do I check to see what size it is? I got a tad pissed resizing it 4 times.

any other advice is appreciated.

Thanks

answer to number 1   about 3 feet .
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Reply #5 - Nov 27th, 2009 at 6:10pm
 
Brad,

I like the cheating idea, I must try that one. smiley=thumbsup.gif
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Reply #6 - Nov 27th, 2009 at 11:07pm
 
Chuck, there are two aspects to a picture's size: the "picture size", or number of dots (pixels) the picture is made from and the "file size", which is the  amount of space on the disk the file uses (kilobytes, or KB).

I'm not familiar with the software you're using, but you should be able to find two adjustments that will effect the size. The "picture size" will probably be easy to spot...it'll be the numbers like 800 x 600 or 640 x 480. The "file size" setting might be hiding a little deeper, though. It will have a name like "Compression" or "Picture Quality". Try adjusting that one and your file size will drop quite a bit. If it's a "Compression" setting, increasing the number will reduce the file size. If it's a "Quality" setting, lower the number to reduce the file size. (You won't likely see a difference in the picture quality unless you're printing large versions of the pics. The difference is virtually invisible on a computer monitor.)

My guess...the reason the focus is a bit out on the picture you posted is because A) You were holding the camera one-handed while holding the object with the other, and both were moving a bit, and B) The sky was a bit overcast, which causes the camera to take slower (and potentially more blurry) photos. If you set the object on something stable, and either hold the camera with both hands or put it on a tripod, I think your autofocus problems will go away. Wink

[Edited to add...] I just re-read your original post, and the distance from the camera to the object has no bearing on the picture size. It's gonna be roughly the same size if you're shooting a pic of a flower that's 10 inches away or shooting a pic of a mountain 10 miles away.
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Reply #7 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 4:19am
 
OK, I just installed and checked out FastStone. It took a while, but I found where to adjust the compression (or quality). Start FastStone, open the Settings option and click the JPEG tab. You'll see the JPEG Quality slider there. Lower numbers (say in the 60 to 80 range) will still look fine, but reduce the file size for you.
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Reply #8 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 7:05am
 
Thanks guys.  smiley=thumbsup.gif
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Reply #9 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 5:06pm
 
I think ya need to rake ya leave's in ya back yard!
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Reply #10 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 5:19pm
 
I did on last Sunday. since then we've had rain for the last 5 days & very windy the last 2 days I got a bunch more from my neighbors.  Angry 

Just because I love ya Wizz.  smiley=slap.gif  That's for noticing.
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Reply #11 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 5:24pm
 
Must be nice to have generous neighbours.

It rained here once too, I remember it well. Shocked Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Nov 29th, 2009 at 6:07am
 
leo Makepeace wrote on Nov 28th, 2009 at 5:24pm:
Must be nice to have generous neighbours.

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Reply #13 - Nov 29th, 2009 at 1:25pm
 
Thanks Chuck I deserved that one.  smiley=dankk2.gif smiley=beer.gif
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Reply #14 - Nov 29th, 2009 at 2:58pm
 
Vaughn McMillan wrote on Nov 27th, 2009 at 11:07pm:
[Edited to add...] I just re-read your original post, and the distance from the camera to the object has no bearing on the picture size. It's gonna be roughly the same size if you're shooting a pic of a flower that's 10 inches away or shooting a pic of a mountain 10 miles away.


True . . . and not true.

The overall picture will be the same size, but the percentage of the picture devoted to the object being photographed - and, therefore, the number of pixels covering the item iteslf - won't.

I shoot a lot of pictures of small turnings, and I always get as close as I can and/or zoom in so that the maximum number of pixels cover the turning itself after the picture is cropped.  This prevents it from getting blurry when it is blown up.  Some examples (all pictures sized to 400 pixels on longest side): picture @ 10 inches; pic 1 cropped to show only the turning; picture at 10 feet; picture cropped to show only the turning.
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Reply #15 - Nov 29th, 2009 at 3:18pm
 
So, the answer to the original question:

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1. what distance should pics be taken at?
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is - Whatever distance/zoom will fill most of the frame with the object you're photographing. 

Note: Zoom refers to optical zoom, not digital zoom.
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Frank Van Atta wrote on Nov 29th, 2009 at 3:18pm:
So, the answer to the original question:

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1. what distance should pics be taken at?
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is - Whatever distance/zoom will fill most of the frame with the object you're photographing. 

Note: Zoom refers to optical zoom, not digital zoom.


Very true on all counts.  smiley=thumbsup.gif  I leave myself enough space around the object to have a reasonable border and to allow for tweaking the rotation of the picture if necessary, but you're right about filling the frame.
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Reply #17 - Dec 2nd, 2009 at 5:24am
 
OK,
I did as advised. I posted a pic of the ring bowl from the blank from this thread.

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I took this pic size is 571 x 480 & 171 KB. Without changing any stats.


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After changing stats I got this size. 425 x 375 & 122 KB


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I'm trying to keep as big a pic as possible like this one from Ron showing how to post pics.

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When I change the stas more the pic gets to small I think to view. First I changed it from 800 x 600 to 640 x 480 then changed the pixels & ended up with the second pic.

I want to keep as big a pic as possible like the link I gave on Ron's pic. Any help is appreciated.
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Reply #18 - Dec 2nd, 2009 at 8:09pm
 
Hay I did not read the whole post but for anyone needing a powerful photo manipulation software, go get GIMP its totally free "open source" and the best thing you can get if you do not own PS.
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If you want to keep the image big try to just lower the image quality not size.
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Reply #19 - Dec 3rd, 2009 at 4:24am
 
Chuck Beland wrote on Dec 2nd, 2009 at 5:24am:
...I'm trying to keep as big a pic as possible like this one from Ron showing how to post pics.

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When I change the stas more the pic gets to small I think to view. First I changed it from 800 x 600 to 640 x 480 then changed the pixels & ended up with the second pic.

I want to keep as big a pic as possible like the link I gave on Ron's pic. Any help is appreciated.


You need to increase the file compression to make the FILE size smaller without making the PICTURE size smaller. Repeating from my post earlier...

...I found where to adjust the compression (or quality). Start FastStone, open the Settings option and click the JPEG tab. You'll see the JPEG Quality slider there. Lower numbers (say in the 60 to 80 range) will still look fine, but reduce the file size for you.

Try that and let us know how things work. You should be able to get a 800 x 600 picture size in a file that's about 50 to 70 KB in size.

Also, it sounds like you're setting your camera to take pretty small pics. (571 x 480 is tiny compared to what your camera is probably capable of. Even an old 2 megapixel camera will still produce pictures that are 1600 x 1200 or so in size.) I'd suggest letting the camera take as big of pics as possible, then do any resizing necessary later on the computer instead. That way if you even need to print one of your pics, you can use the largest version for the best print quality. (The 571 x 480 size would look like crap on a WR Calendar, for example.)

I hope this helps -
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Reply #20 - Dec 3rd, 2009 at 5:27am
 
Vaughn,
I messed up my numbers. When I check the size it's always at 800 x 600 I guess I forgot to change the file size. I'll try that next.

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Reply #21 - Dec 3rd, 2009 at 3:25pm
 
Vaughn McMillan wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 4:11am:
I leave myself enough space around the object to have a reasonable border and to allow for tweaking the rotation of the picture if necessary, but you're right about filling the frame. 



Vaughn has it right, always leave a little "real estate" around the image for cropping.
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