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Jan 5th, 2010 at 7:56am
 
Hello everyone.  Thanks for the forum.  I was just turned onto woodturning over the holidays.  I visited my parents in Michigan and my father showed me how to turn pens.  I turned 3, one lacewood, one purpleheart, and one black walnut.  I believe I'm hooked so I'm here to learn.  I don't have much room in my garage and no workshop so I'm trying to find out which affordable mini-lathe is best for me.  Thanks again I look forward to learning and eventually sharing.
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Reply #1 - Jan 5th, 2010 at 8:27am
 
Welcome Jake.  You have just entered the vortex of no return.  You are going to have so much fun turning and learning.  The folks here are mostly harmless.  Ask all the questions that come to mind, search them out, and ask them.  You'll get answers, sometimes they'll be right.  But really we'll try to help anyway we can.  Welcome to WR.
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Reply #2 - Jan 5th, 2010 at 3:56pm
 
Welcome aboard Jake. A great group of people here always willing to help out. When you go for a lathe make sure not to get one of those cheapie's. You will not be satisfied. It is much less expensive to get a decent machine from the start rather than going through all the hassel of upgrading to a better machine over and over. For the mini's the jets, Rikon and the new Delta are well received machines. Also, on a side note, the lathe $$ will be the least of your turning expenses! All those slick chisels, chucks, finishing supplies ect. will keep you in the poor house. But you are gonna love it..Bill.. Grin
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Reply #3 - Jan 6th, 2010 at 9:14am
 
Thanks for the welcomes.  From what I've researched so far I think I'm going to go with the Jet mini with variable speed.  It looks like Sears carries them, and I've got a couple gift cards to get me on my way to buying it probably within the month.
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Reply #4 - Jan 7th, 2010 at 5:36pm
 
Jake,
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The jet 1014 mini will be a great lathe for starting expecially if you are turning pens.  You can also turn many other things on that lathe as well.  I have that jet as well as a big lathe and still enjoy turning on it.

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Dale Bonertz wrote on Jan 7th, 2010 at 5:36pm:
Jake,
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The jet 1014 mini will be a great lathe for starting expecially if you are turning pens.  You can also turn many other things on that lathe as well.  I have that jet as well as a big lathe and still enjoy turning on it.

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I definitely plan on turning more than pens.  There is a recycling drop off place that I go to that accepts "yard waste" that I already pick through for wood to use in my smoker...So I should have no problem getting more than enough stock to turn for all kinds of things...The more I'm researching the more I'm wondering if I should go with the Jet 1220  without variable speed instead of the 1014 with VS.   My decision would be a lot easier if someone posted a good lathe on craigslist for a steal of a price...
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Reply #6 - Jan 8th, 2010 at 6:28pm
 
Jake, I have the 1220VS and love it.  I am now officially spoiled by the VS.  I don't think I have changed belts more than 6 or 8 times in the 18 months I have had it.  I don't think I would ever buy another lathe without VS.

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Reply #7 - Jan 9th, 2010 at 4:34pm
 
another lathe to look at is the new delta 12 in or if you can waite for a sale a nova 1624 is a very good lathe
the 1624 is not vera speed it is belt change  and only takes a few seconds   but of all the lathes try and stay away from reeves drive
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Reply #8 - Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:58pm
 
ddt frederick holsclaw wrote on Jan 9th, 2010 at 4:34pm:
another lathe to look at is the new delta 12 in or if you can waite for a sale a nova 1624 is a very good lathe
the 1624 is not vera speed it is belt change  and only takes a few seconds   but of all the lathes try and stay away from reeves drive
to much main.  like a trophy wife


My father has a Delta and loves it, and a Nova would be sweet, but they are both out of my budget.  I just noticed Sears raised the price on the Jet 1014 VS to $626.77...that kills my idea of buying that lathe with gift cards...The Rikon 12x16 without VS comes in under what I was looking to spend.  I have not  read anything bad about the Rikon mini's...Should I have???
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Reply #9 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:06am
 
Welcome and you may want to check out Woodcraft.  They list the Jet VS1014 for $430.
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Roger_Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:06am:
Welcome and you may want to check out Woodcraft.  They list the Jet VS1014 for $430.


I see that, and there is a location 15 minutes from my house...maybe I should ask for gift cards for there.  I'm wondering if having a Jet 1014 with VS is $130 more important than a Rikon1216 without VS.  Undecided
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Jake Respondek wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 1:08pm:
Roger_Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:06am:
Welcome and you may want to check out Woodcraft.  They list the Jet VS1014 for $430.


I see that, and there is a location 15 minutes from my house...maybe I should ask for gift cards for there.  I'm wondering if having a Jet 1014 with VS is $130 more important than a Rikon1216 without VS.  Undecided


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i have the jet 1014VS and love it.  with a twist of the knob, i can change speed on the fly.  very rarely do i have to change the belt.
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Reply #12 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 6:31pm
 
Welcome,I have the Ricon and love it.Your more than welcome to come up to Tampa and give it a spin.Always like meetin other turners.
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Reply #13 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 11:39pm
 
Jake, when you go to Woodcraft ask them if they are going to swap or replace the lathes in their training room.  They did this in birmingham a couple of years ago and the old lathes sold for about $100. 

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Ken Ward wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 6:31pm:
Welcome,I have the Ricon and love it.Your more than welcome to come up to Tampa and give it a spin.Always like meetin other turners.


That is awesome...I've only turned 3 pens so I doubt that I would really know what feeling/liking about a lathe yet...In other words I don't have any tools, and would probably feel pretty uncomfortable using yours but maybe sometime when you plan on turning something I could come watch you and have you show me what you like about it.  I'll send you a private message with my cell phone, call anytime.  Thank you!

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Jake, when you go to Woodcraft ask them if they are going to swap or replace the lathes in their training room.  They did this in birmingham a couple of years ago and the old lathes sold for about $100. 

Good luck to you.


I REALLY like the sounds of that...I'll go ask this weekend!
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Reply #15 - Jan 16th, 2010 at 5:47pm
 
Hi Jake and welcome,

I miss the VS but I do 90% of my turning at one speed anyway so not a biggy for me and I am still tickled with my jet 1220...
paid $440 at woodcraft for it last aug.

Speaking as one of those go cheap first, second and third don't do it...!!!!! Spend a few extra bucks right up front and enjoy life. Rather then going cheap and having to go to confession twice a week for impure thoughts..

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Brad_Mortensen wrote on Jan 16th, 2010 at 5:47pm:
Hi Jake and welcome,

I miss the VS but I do 90% of my turning at one speed anyway so not a biggy for me and I am still tickled with my jet 1220...
paid $440 at woodcraft for it last aug.

Speaking as one of those go cheap first, second and third don't do it...!!!!! Spend a few extra bucks right up front and enjoy life. Rather then going cheap and having to go to confession twice a week for impure thoughts..

Brad


Thanks for input on VS.  I agree about the not going cheap deal.  Ken graciously offered to allow me to come check out his Rikon.  I haven't been able to find anything online negative about the Rikons and the price is really good on their mini at Sears so I'll check his out and go from there.

Does anyone have any bad experiences with Rikons they would like to share???

edit: I just found a few rather negative reviews of the Rikon, although the reviews were from a few years ago...Maybe quality control has been improved?
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Reply #17 - Jan 18th, 2010 at 7:08pm
 
Hey jake welcome towr Im kinda new around here myself your goona love all the info you get outta these guys here. I wholehearteedly agree about the lathe choice I bought a cheapie and am already looking to upgrade coulda saved some cash by spending more int the first place. Thats awesome you have a woodcraft that close to your house, hope you uhave good self control. Happy Turning!!!!
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Reply #18 - Jan 18th, 2010 at 7:32pm
 
Jake Respondek wrote on Jan 18th, 2010 at 11:19am:
Brad_Mortensen wrote on Jan 16th, 2010 at 5:47pm:
Hi Jake and welcome,

I miss the VS but I do 90% of my turning at one speed anyway so not a biggy for me and I am still tickled with my jet 1220...
paid $440 at woodcraft for it last aug.

Speaking as one of those go cheap first, second and third don't do it...!!!!! Spend a few extra bucks right up front and enjoy life. Rather then going cheap and having to go to confession twice a week for impure thoughts..

Brad


Thanks for input on VS.  I agree about the not going cheap deal.  Ken graciously offered to allow me to come check out his Rikon.  I haven't been able to find anything online negative about the Rikons and the price is really good on their mini at Sears so I'll check his out and go from there.

Does anyone have any bad experiences with Rikons they would like to share???

edit: I just found a few rather negative reviews of the Rikon, although the reviews were from a few years ago...Maybe quality control has been improved?


Welcome Jake.

That line I highlighted in bold leads me to think you're trying to convince yourself the lathe you can obtain for the price you want to spend right now will serve your purpose, and serve you well. In my experience, with any tool, that's usually a mistake. Buy the best you can afford right out of the shoot because you'll probably end up doing that anyway, and you'll be out the money you spent on the cheaper tool. I think that theory is especially true in wood turning, because of the learning curve involved. It's hard enough to acquire the necessary skills when everything works right, and almost impossible when your tools malfunction.

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Reply #19 - Jan 19th, 2010 at 9:35am
 
OK OK, I get it.  I'm a tightwad by nature so sometimes I have to fight myself to spend money.   I will let all my loved ones know to get me woodcraft gift cards, not Sears, because it looks like they have one of the best selections and reasonable prices.   From the start of my research I've really like what I've read about the Jet 1014 VS, so I think I'll go with my gut, even if it means not getting it as soon as I would like.
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Woodcraft in clearwater usually has a sale about the 1st of mar.15% off on everything(I think) Thats when I usually go when I plan on spending a lot.Adds up when you plan on spendind a few hundred bucks,may be well worth the wait.
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Ken Ward wrote on Jan 19th, 2010 at 2:59pm:
Woodcraft in clearwater usually has a sale about the 1st of mar.15% off on everything(I think) Thats when I usually go when I plan on spending a lot.Adds up when you plan on spendind a few hundred bucks,may be well worth the wait.


Yep, I emailed the store manager and asked if they were going to have any demo/classroom lathes for sale anytime soon.  He said they just sold them all a few months ago.  But he said they are having a power tool sale starting this Friday through Feb 27th.  So it looks like you get to go shopping a little earlier this year!
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Reply #22 - Jan 19th, 2010 at 5:29pm
 
Which one you gettin ??? I love my Ricon,but gotta sat that 1220 is nice.
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Ken I'm not sure, I was thinking the 1014 VS...But then someone answered my wanted ad on craigslist with this...
"Hey, the lathe is about 6 years old, in good condition. It has a few stains from finishing ( wood finish dripping on it). I am including the standard attachments: Drive center, live center, back plate and tool rest. Plus extra attachments: Bowl turning rest, custom 12" tool rest, 1/2" Jacobs chuck and a few turning tools, everything to start turning immediately. The jet lathe is built very solid and heavy, about 80 lbs and works as good as new. I paid $350.00 new plus the extras, I'm asking $180.00 I live in Clearwater.
I just added a custom brass knob to the tailstock handwheel that the pics don't show."
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My father recommended NOT buying a used lathe.  I think his thought was that since I don't know anything about lathes I might get something that's a piece of crap and wouldn't be under warranty.  But this seems like a pretty sweet deal.  What do you all think?  What should one look out for when buying used?  What would be a worst case scenario if I bought it, brought it home then found out something was faulty?
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Reply #24 - Jan 20th, 2010 at 9:37am
 
This is a very good deal, its one I wouldn't pass up, but I'd want to see it run first. If you go and check it out slide the tail stock up to the dead center and check the alignment to make sure their point to point with both centers in place, then fire it up and listen for any strange sounds around the bearing/motor area. Also while its off check the threaded shaft in the head with your hand for wiggle or side to side movement in the bearings.

Its not a VS but Jet makes a very good lathe and for the price its a very good bargain with everything that comes with it that's for sure. The only thing missing is a 4 jawed self centering chuck to get a newbie started and for $180.00, this is a steal as long as the lathe run's and is in good shape!@!@!@!

It would be ideal for a beginner, that's for sure!
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Reply #25 - Jan 20th, 2010 at 11:56am
 
You could probably get Ken to go with you to check it out since has a little more experience with lathes.  But I wouldn't wait very long. It is definitely worth the $180, even if it needs a little work.

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Reply #26 - Jan 20th, 2010 at 1:48pm
 
Ok, that does it.  I'm submitting my request to the boss to get approval for a cash expenditure immediately upon getting home from work.
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Reply #27 - Jan 20th, 2010 at 1:58pm
 
I'd jump on that one Jake. Follow Wizzy's advice, and even if it has minor flaws, I'm sure you'll get your money back if you try to sell it. I've owned several Jet tools (table saw, jointer, band saw) for about 15 years, and asside from replacing switches I've had no problems.
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Reply #28 - Jan 20th, 2010 at 10:15pm
 
I would be glad to go take a look at it with you Jake,I just Pm'd you my Cell.be glad to help out if I can.
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Ken Ward wrote on Jan 20th, 2010 at 10:15pm:
I would be glad to go take a look at it with you Jake,I just Pm'd you my Cell.be glad to help out if I can.


I wish I would have seen this earlier...I'm heading out the door to take a look at it in a few minutes.  If there is anything that just doesn't seem right with it I'll give you a call so we can go take a look together.  I really appreciate the offer.
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Reply #30 - Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:55am
 
Well it turns out the lathe is in great shape, I couldn't find anything loose or out of alignment at all.  The guy said he only used it a couple times per year, and I believe him.  I think I'll call her Tina, she now resides in my garage.
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Reply #31 - Jan 22nd, 2010 at 9:23am
 
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Reply #33 - Jan 25th, 2010 at 3:59am
 
Congrats Jake. That's a great little lathe, and you just about stole it for that price, especially considering the extras that came with it.  smiley=thumbsup.gif
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