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JimQuarles WR Administrator WR Patron Offline WR Rocks, BIG Time! Posts: 10840 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #15 - 06/12/11 at 11:33:32 Here one of the HOA's put a lien on a home that was twice the value of the home to cover their costs of filing a lawsuit against a homeowner because his flag pole was 40' TOO tall. JimQuarles
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John Lawson WR Supporter Offline Wombats rule! Posts: 1437 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #16 - 06/12/11 at 11:54:38 In Texas they can foreclose without a court order for non-payment of fees or fines. So you lose your job, slack off on the fees in favor of food or electricity, and lose your house. No recourse; you signed the HOA agreement. In NJ, all they can do is put a lien on your house and get their fees and legal fees back when your house is sold.
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Brendan McAreavy WR Addict Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 2281 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #17 - 06/12/11 at 13:46:05 Foreigner's question - these Homeowner Associations, are you told you will be in such an area before you buy the house? And, from interpreting the post above, do they have the power to fine you for breaking their rules on your own property?
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David Hamann WR Global Moderator WR Patron Offline Be yourself-every one else is taken! Posts: 5362 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #18 - 06/12/11 at 14:11:51 yes and yes. in a way it is a subtle form of discrimination, since few can afford both the house payment and the HOA's fees. keeps the low income families out and their home values higher. JMHO.
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Chuck Beland WR Supporter Head WR Twit Offline I got my eyes on you. Posts: 12448 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #19 - 06/12/11 at 14:40:13 David Hamann wrote on 06/12/11 at 14:11:51: yes and yes. in a way it is a subtle form of discrimination, since few can afford both the house payment and the HOA's fees. keeps the low income families out and their home values higher. JMHO. Definitely.
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John Lawson WR Supporter Offline Wombats rule! Posts: 1437 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #20 - 06/12/11 at 15:31:21 Agreed. I have no interest in amenities like pools or community centers where I can go play dominoes, so I live in a not quite-so-nice development, but my house is very nice on the inside. My HOA dues are not bad at all, $115 per quarter. In NJ with no amenities, it was $85 per year.
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Reply #21 - 06/12/11 at 15:44:13

Thank you. We have areas here with Residents' Committees but they have no teeth. They act in the interest of people living in a particular area and their represesntaives will approach politicians or Government agencies on the peoples' behalf but any action taken is taken by the authorities. In my own area the local committee petitioned the Counsellors for traffic calming road alterations which will start soon and things like receptacles for dog walkers to put their dogs' poo in. If anyone attempted to set up a committee to charge people for having their personal business regulatated on their own property it wouldn't have much of a start. There's enough control by Local Council and Government.

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Larry Matchett WR Supporter Offline Be One with your Tool! Posts: 927 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #22 - 06/12/11 at 17:04:20 John Lawson wrote on 06/12/11 at 11:15:03: Larry, Once I retire, we can go anywhere, but for now I need my job. Not sure about Mississippi, though, since I talk like a Yankee. We can educate that out of y'all.
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John Lawson WR Supporter Offline Wombats rule! Posts: 1437 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #23 - 06/12/11 at 17:16:37 Larry Matchett wrote on 06/12/11 at 17:04:20: John Lawson wrote on 06/12/11 at 11:15:03: Larry, Once I retire, we can go anywhere, but for now I need my job. Not sure about Mississippi, though, since I talk like a Yankee. We can educate that out of y'all. I dunno. I'm a hard-headed SOB from Brooklyn!
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Mike Baber WR Addict WR Supporter Offline When all else fails, ask someone who knows! Posts: 5952 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #24 - 06/12/11 at 19:56:54 John Lawson wrote on 06/12/11 at 17:16:37: I dunno. I'm a hard-headed SOB from Brooklyn! LOL... he's a dam yankee alright.
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John Lawson WR Supporter Offline Wombats rule! Posts: 1437 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #25 - 06/12/11 at 21:08:29 My family lived in Brooklyn for 100 years, both sides. My mother's side came from Germany, my father's side came from Canada. You will never convince me I'm not hard-headed!
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JimQuarles WR Administrator WR Patron Offline WR Rocks, BIG Time! Posts: 10840 Gender:	Re: John L's shop Reply #26 - 06/12/11 at 21:26:49 Both sides of my family are from Virginia. My father's side traces all the way back to the Jamestown colony. I was 12 before I found out dam Yankee was 2 words. JimQuarles
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Reply #27 - 06/12/11 at 23:05:00

John Lawson wrote on 06/12/11 at 21:08:29:

My mother's side came from Germany, my father's side came from Canada. You will never convince me I'm not hard-headed!

LOL... you would do well down here in the south young man... I don't know much about them Canadians, but them Germans... they know how to cook buddy, spent three years over their when we were stationed at Hahn Air Base which makes me an Air Force Brat and a rebel! Grin

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Reply #28 - 06/13/11 at 02:11:51

Wizz,
I'm 100% Canadian french & a dam Yankee. Tongue

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There was something on the next a couple of years ago about a retired CSM (command sergeant major) (In Florida I think. The highest non com in the Army. He put a American flag on his front lawn & they tried to take him to court to get rid of it cause it ruined the look of the front of his house. He won the case. beer

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Reply #29 - 06/13/11 at 05:53:40

John Lawson wrote on 06/12/11 at 11:15:03:

Larry,

Once I retire, we can go anywhere, but for now I need my job. Not sure about Mississippi, though, since I talk like a Yankee.

And you get away with that in Denton How?

I got smart when we moved into this house there was no HOA then the town pressured us to set one up, I volunteered to be president the first year and, basically grandfathered anyone who owned the house for more than 10 years to be able to do anything, we are the newest people on the block and have been here for 15 years already. We have 8 acres and are one of the smaller lots in the association but with my Ham Tower, wood fired kiln, Bee Hives and animals I would give nightmares to anyone who wanted to put in restrictions.

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