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Buck Nemitt WR Supporter Offline Lovin It Posts: 274	Re: Mining Wood (Ancient Kauri) Reply #3 - 12/10/11 at 06:09:13 Wow, I never realized the bog pieces were that huge.
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Bill Bolen WR Supporter Offline Missouri turner Posts: 1061	Re: Mining Wood (Ancient Kauri) Reply #4 - 12/10/11 at 07:54:49 Whoa! If my 20" farm boss saw this she would run and hide
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Ed Weber WR Supporter Online Posts: 1253 Gender:	Re: Mining Wood (Ancient Kauri) Reply #5 - 12/10/11 at 08:29:55 Thanks for posting that Ron. I saw this a while back and always thought that you never really get how large it is until you see it on the truck.
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Chuck Beland WR Supporter Head WR Twit Offline I got my eyes on you. Posts: 12447 Gender:	Re: Mining Wood (Ancient Kauri) Reply #7 - 12/10/11 at 16:43:40 That was fantastic.
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Bill Schoppert WR Champion Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 427 Gender:	Re: Mining Wood (Ancient Kauri) Reply #8 - 12/10/11 at 22:37:16 Wow now that is a log. There's a lot of money in them there logs. Thanks for posting.
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Tony Mullins Active Member Offline Twit In Training. Posts: 219 Gender:	Re: Mining Wood (Ancient Kauri) Reply #9 - 12/13/11 at 07:54:54 Very good video. That is one huge piece of wood.
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Reply #10 - 12/25/11 at 08:31:57

Woodcraft here in town had a guy carbon date the lot that they got in. It was well over 50,000 years old. It's amazing how well preserved it is. Very soft, and somewhat plain, but has an understated beauty. Because of the size of the trees, you get some chattoyance that comes out real nice.
Considering all that has to be done to recover this wood, I am surprised that it isn't more expensive. They must be getting an awful lot out.

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Reply #11 - 12/28/11 at 14:48:57

Wish we could rely on carbon dating. Read an article many year ago that said that the scientific community was pretty united that it was only accurate to about 300 years or so. After that it is anybody's guess. The Kauri bowls I turned are both tested to 3200 years. No way to confirm that as far as I'm concerned. But at least it's plausable.
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Reply #12 - 12/28/11 at 14:59:31

Rev. Doug Miller wrote on 12/28/11 at 14:48:57:

Wish we could rely on carbon dating.Read an article many year ago that said that the scientific community was pretty united that it was only accurate to about 300 years or so.After that it is anybody's guess.The Kauri bowls I turned are both tested to 3200 years.No way to confirm that as far as I'm concerned.But at least it's plausable.

Sorry Doug, I know this goes against your beliefs.

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Reply #13 - 12/28/11 at 18:30:49

You're right, Ron. I don't believe in carbon dating. I am also not nearly scientist enough to make any arguements. But this second article does refute the first one.

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"Carbon dating is controversial for a couple of reasons. First of all, it's predicated upon a set of questionable assumptions."

"And finally, this dating scheme is controversial because the dates derived are often wildly inconsistent."

These are both statements that I remember reading when I was in grade school. In my way of thinking, if carbon dating were so accurate, wouldn't the scientific community be united and waving the banner for its usefulness in dating ancient things? Besides, in the case of our Kauri wood, it has been buried in the bogs and swamps of Oz, not exposed to the atmosphere. Testing would therefore be flawed because of non-exposure to the radiocarbon in the atmosphere.

I'm not going to argue one side or the other. I don't even care really. I'm just applying a little logic to the evidence that is being presented. Not that everything is able to be proven by physical evidence either.

It is what it is and we may never know in this life what the truth of the matter is. One thing for sure, there will be a day when we will all know the truth. Then we won't care for real.

Still beautiful wood that turns nicely and makes for beautiful pieces. And that is what really matters now. Fun to think about what this tree might have experienced in its life time as well. I've spent several hours thinking about what might have been going on in the world while that majestic tree was standing.
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Reply #14 - 12/28/11 at 19:12:52

I looked for it, but couldn't find an article I read that said that carbon dating was an estimating process. Generally it will give information that is accurate to a 500 to 5000 year range, around 10%. Rather than saying that something is 50,000 years old, they should be saying that something is 45,000-50,000 years old.

A second theory is that buried things may have lost carbon faster if they are in a wet environment rather than a dry climate.

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