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Keeping your shop clean
01/29/12 at 03:32:36
 
We're planning to move to a new house and while my wife is concentrating on, well everything except the garage, I'm planning out a new workshop. At the moment I'm in a small garden shed where it really doesn't matter about collateral dust damage but the place we're looking at has a double garage that would do very nicely but has the boiler and other things in place that will react badly to dust.
I've seen the pristine workshops in the pictures here and wonder if it is really possible to use dust extraction to enable my new workshop to coexist with a boiler, shelves of 'things', a freezer and so on? The space is there but I don't want to be permanently cleaning.
I'm quite happy to spend money on kit but have no experience with dust extraction.

Advice would be most welcome.

Jon.
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Reply #1 - 01/29/12 at 04:11:30
 
   Jon  I have my forced air furnace for the house in my garage shop.  I have a dust collector that I move from machine to machine, for some it works well with others not so much.  I have to vacumn the walls and dust a few times a year.  My furnace doesn't seem to be bothered by the dust.  I do keep in mind the finish vapors because of the furnace.  And cob webs... they show up reguardless.
   For convienience [sp] I'd like to have a plumbed DC system with the DC  in a corner boxed in by furnace filters someday.
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Reply #2 - 01/29/12 at 12:13:06
 
Jon,
My shop is in my basement 10' behind me is the boiler & washer & dryer. I bought this DC Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register it works great I was advised to get a 1 or 2 micron bag for it. I saving my pennies for it. others here have the same one & also saY IT WORKS GOOD.  I do mostly turning no flat work but if I did I would do as Guy said move from mach to mach. a filtration system would help a lot with the dust. Also a heavy duty clear plastic curtain to keep the dust away from  the mechanical.
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Reply #3 - 01/29/12 at 12:48:28
 
with a 5 micron bag you are just blowing dust around the shop. Most recommend a 0.5 or 1 micron bag.
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Reply #4 - 01/29/12 at 13:24:03
 
i have a 2 car garage with my shop in it.  it also houses the furnace and water heater, both of which are gas fired. 
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i built a closet around them, with a screened "window" above the "enclosed door" to allow air flow in, but help keep dust to a min.
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Reply #5 - 01/30/12 at 04:12:54
 
I would second the last suggestion. If it is at all possible, built a wall around the mechanicals to keep the dust out. Any dust collection system will be a stop gap measure, as far as protecting mechanicals goes. It would be best as far as your cars go too. Separating gasoline fumes from the boiler is an obvious benefit. One that SWMBO might even buy.
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Reply #6 - 01/30/12 at 11:54:26
 
Thanks for the advice chaps, we made an offer on the new house today which was accepted and I'm getting mentally prepared for a spot of garage conversion.
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Reply #7 - 02/01/12 at 05:04:27
 
When I put the boiler in our house the fire chief required me to build a room with fire rated drywall and a fire rated door to keep the wood dust away from any possible ignition source (Wood dust can literally be explosive under the right circumstances).  I personally think building a boiler room was a bit over kill but it is nice to have the boiler in its own space.  Besides it's a great space for storage of non-flammables such as pipe, wire and rarely used tools.
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Reply #8 - 02/01/12 at 21:29:06
 
Jon Fletcher wrote on 01/29/12 at 03:32:36:
We're planning to move to a new house and while my wife is concentrating on, well everything except the garage, I'm planning out a new workshop. At the moment I'm in a small garden shed where it really doesn't matter about collateral dust damage but the place we're looking at has a double garage that would do very nicely but has the boiler and other things in place that will react badly to dust.
I've seen the pristine workshops in the pictures here and wonder if it is really possible to use dust extraction to enable my new workshop to coexist with a boiler, shelves of 'things', a freezer and so on? The space is there but I don't want to be permanently cleaning.
I'm quite happy to spend money on kit but have no experience with dust extraction.

Advice would be most welcome.

Jon.


Jon, here is how I solved the problem. Her income bought the new home. My retirement income bought her a new Jaguar. I had one side of the garage as a shop she had the other to park her car.

As I worked in the shop, I bought new equipment and my work area......well, it started to expand and at times, I had to really work at getting the jag in her side. One night, I had an order to fill that included two flatwork jewelry boxes. It was Halloween night 2010 when I convinced her "just this once" to leave her car outside. There was no rain predicted so she agreed and I did my work.

About two in the morning, we awoke to such a clatter ya ya...Anyway I ran to the window to see what was the matter. (living in NE Oklahoma means NEVER trust the weatherman) It was hailing golf balls and larger. It was hitting her car! We both ran downstairs to move my stuff outa the way and bring her car in. By this time it was too late. $6000.00 paintjob and body work.

She and I the next day started looking for a free standing heated and cooled shop. I've never looked back, but I have impulsively and continuously apologized.

Try it and maybe you can get a new shop. Jimmy
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