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Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:02pm
 
I've enjoyed woodworking for most of my life and only recently got into turning apx. 4 yrs now. prior to building the shop I always worked out of the house garage or basement depending on where I lived at the time.
I'm 55 yrs of age and retired this past summer from a career in Real Estate, who knows I may yet go back to this in the future. but for now I'm dealing with a lot of issues with my eyes (6 surgeries to date and another scheduled for later this month) so all depending on how that goes. This was in part reason for the early retirement.

Location: Abbotsford B.C.
Shop size : 22' x 23' outside dimensions, this is a stand alone structure with a loft that has a head room of apx.5' 5" at the peak, and a floor area of 12' x 22' that provides me with lots of wood storage, access to this attic is by both an interior drop down staircase as well as an exterior door.
Shop was built or at least finished to lock up stage in 2009 since then the interior has been a work in progress as funds allow.
As you can see I did "lots" of pre-wire so that I would not have a shortage of plugs throughout the shop. Panel is fed with a 60amp from the main in the house, but the actual shop panel is a 100amp panel so that I could have lots of dedicated lines to each of my machines.
All of the cabinet drawers are on full extension slides, I have yet to add the fronts to these drawers though, as I said this is still a work in progress.

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Reply #1 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:05pm
 
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Sorry about the Quality of these pics as I had to compress them so much in order to get them to post on this site.

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Reply #2 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 3:17pm
 
nice shop.

i am not a fan of using a 100A box on a 60A circuit.  with so many circuits, you run the risk of popping the 60A circuit breaker if you operate too much load at one time, either on purpose or by accident.  also, does your electrical code allow this?  just my 2˘.
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Reply #3 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 3:31pm
 
Everything  as far as electrical and structure was all done through permits, the panel in the shop is a 100amp panel but the main breaker in this panel was switched over to a 60amp. All done and passed by code. The reason for the larger panel is that so each major machine could have it's own dedicated line. Lights are also on 2 seperate breakers, all wires pulled through walls are 12g and 10g and 8g respectively for either a 110- 20amp circuit, 220 - 20amp, 220 -30amp, or 220 - 40amp. lights though are on 15amp breakers.

This is classified as a one man shop and code allows for this.
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Reply #4 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 3:39pm
 
John, what do you have your shop sheeted with ?? It almost looks like G1S plywood. Wish I had a shop that size......yes I am jealous....

As long as the rating of the panel is not exceeded, all is good. But to trip a 60A breaker, multiple pieces of machinery would have to be run at the same time under load. If he's the only in the shop, chances are that he won't be running 2 or 3 things at the same time. The CEC says he fine.

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Reply #5 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:47pm
 
Hi James
You'll probably get tears in your eyes when I tell you what the shop is sheathed in .... Marine grade 5/8 okume plywood 11 ply, all walls and ceiling as well as all of the shop cabinets. I got a super deal on 2 lifts of this stuff (104 pieces) it was rejected for it's marine application because the outer veneer layer was too thin, and in places you could see where it had nearly been sanded through. But for my purposes it was just fine.
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Reply #6 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:49pm
 
That is one gorgeous shop I am green with envy.  I would say he only uses one machine at a time so a 60 amp is fine.
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Reply #7 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 9:01pm
 
John Spitters wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 3:31pm:
Everything  as far as electrical and structure was all done through permits, the panel in the shop is a 100amp panel but the main breaker in this panel was switched over to a 60amp. All done and passed by code. The reason for the larger panel is that so each major machine could have it's own dedicated line. Lights are also on 2 seperate breakers, all wires pulled through walls are 12g and 10g and 8g respectively for either a 110- 20amp circuit, 220 - 20amp, 220 -30amp, or 220 - 40amp. lights though are on 15amp breakers.

This is classified as a one man shop and code allows for this.

John,
As an electrician I will say what you did is safe and well done! That is why it was passed by a inspector.
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Nice shop, a lot cleaner than mine. Nice lathe and drum sander.
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Reply #9 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 9:12pm
 
I have peni  sorry shop envy.  Very nice
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Reply #10 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 9:26pm
 
i am glad that all is to code and inspected.  i just worry though about a stand alone shop with only 60 A service.  while you may be the only one in there, run the planer with DC, lights and a heater in the winter and you have a load.
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Reply #11 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 9:32pm
 
I questioned a "100 amp" panel on the 60 amp circuit because I thought you meant you had a 100 amp breaker on the box, a big no-no.  But matching breakers are good.  I have 60 amp breakers on each end of my extension to the garage.
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Reply #12 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 10:48pm
 
Man... what a shop, I love the dust collection set up!!! smiley=thumbsup.gif
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Reply #13 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 10:20am
 
So this is where the magic happens.  Very nice shop John, being from BC I'm going to guess it's heated Grin.  Do you have a separate finishing area?
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Reply #14 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 10:45am
 
Man, I was just about to post about the Dust collection system I worked up over the last couple of weekends, but it'll look pathetice compared to this.

Well done.  Do you ever go back into the house?  If so, Why?
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Reply #15 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 12:24pm
 
Nate
If you look through the pics  ( I think it is pic #2 you will see that I have a 1500w portable oil filled convection heater 110v that I use to heat the shop. When I built the shop I paid attention to making sure that it was well insulated and all potential air gaps were weather sealed, this is why I have the double swing out doors rather than the standard roll-up. Even when the temp drops to the occassional -14c I'm able to keep the shop at a comfortable 65 f.
I generally plug in the heater starting sometime in October and just leave it on till the weather warms up again in the spring. I estimate that it may cost about an extra $50 per month to keep the shop heated all winter but it's well worth it to me.


P.S as to the concerns of inadequate electrical capacity, 60amps is more than enough for a one man shop.
I've never had an issue and I have a 4.5hp bandsaw, 3hp planer, 3hp jointer, 3hp D.C. 2hp lathe a 110v heater. so the most tools and the heaviest loads at any time may be the D.C.,  lights,  Bandsaw, and heater.
AND if I was to overload the system the worst that could happen is that I would trip the 60amp. main in the shop before it would or should trip the 60amp. breaker in the house panel that feeds the shop.

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Reply #17 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 1:32am
 
Seriously impressed. Lots of nice equipment, and the walls! oh, to have that look, and be able to hang anything anywhere....
Did you make all the cabinets too? That's a lot of raised panels.
You must be very well insulated to get by on just 1500 watts of heat. Good job.
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Reply #18 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 12:25pm
 
Thanks Michael
Yes I made all of the raised panels, rails and styles are of Alder and the panels within are of spalted birch which we milled ourselves. A few years back we were lucky (myself and a few woodworking friends) in that we came across a large pile of Maple, Birch and Cherry logs that had been cut and stacked then left like that in the bush for several years. Of course decay had set in, some of the logs were no longer good but the bulk of the pile had some beautiful spalting, so we had this shipped to a bandmill, milled and kiln dried for our use, I thought that this would be a nice choice for my shop cabinets.
In all there are ( so far) 22 door panels that I have made and I have yet to build a few more cabinets, especially something for my plane collection.
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Reply #19 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 5:28pm
 
-14C??????, how do you get from the house to the shop in that weather?  You need a tunnel so you don't have to expose yourself to the weather Grin
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Nate,
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As you all said It's nice! ...  nice enough to only have to make one trip there and back in a day.
Yes I've been known to spend "all day" in the shop.
Besides we seldon get weather that cold here, but it can happen once or twice each winter but when it does it generally lasts only for a few days, then it's back to mild winter weather with lots of rain.
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Chuck,
Ya need to look closer at John's first post... first line of second paragraph...

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Chuck Beland wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 6:31am:
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Reply #26 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 9:01pm
 
Nice shop, John.  I think even Norm Abram would have some envy over your shop! smiley=thumbsup.gif
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Mike Baber wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 10:20am:
Chuck Beland wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 6:31am:
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Reply #28 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:13am
 
Dick
If your looking to find it rest assured that it is well secured, alarmed and all. Plus it's all of 15' from my bedroom window Smiley
Actually that is probably one of my biggest concerns with the shop. All those drawers and shelves behind the doors are stock full of tools, but at least with the proper cabinets  most all of it appears to be out of site and away from theaving eyes.

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Very nice, organized shop.
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