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Sep 17th, 2012 at 12:40pm
 
I took the opportunity to clear out 1/2 of my shop to paint the concrete floor.  (no pics yet, sorry)

At our last home I did this and found that cleanup is VERY EASY on a painted concrete floor!  The dust and chips slide right along compared to a bare concrete floor.  MOST IMPORTANTLY is that you DO NOT have to use those expensive epoxy floor paints smiley=thumbsup.gif.  They are probably the best (but $70/gallon was a non-starter for me), however the next best thing is Oil Based floor paint (if you can stand the odor while it is curing) and then as a 3rd option you can use an Enamel floor paint.

Let the paint fully cure before getting your heavy tools back on it (lathe, drill press, floor standing grinder, roll-around tool chests, tool stands, etc.) 

I purchased a second hand dust collector and modified it to trap more dust in the bottom bag (subject for another posting), so since I was working on that I thought I would paint the floor this weekend too.

An area of 12 x 25 feet took two gallons (two one-gallon coats) and cost me $30 total.  It now looks great and sweeping up is a breeze (no pun intended).

If you have a concrete floor in your shop, I HIGHLY recommend that you take the time to do this.  If the paint does eventually get scratched, simply give it a single re-coating and again it is like new.  I find regular oil based garage paint (at ~$15 / gallon at Lowes) lasts me about 12 years between coats.  I use their standard GREY color.
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Reply #1 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:00pm
 
I got photos this morning before work.  Posting them here now.  You can see the difference between the painted and regular concrete.  Much brighter and easier to clean too!


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Reply #2 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:32pm
 
Tom.  That certainly does make a difference.  It looks great.
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Reply #3 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 7:42pm
 
That looks REAL nice, Tom.  Do you find it gets slippery with a layer of sawdust/shavings on it?

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Reply #4 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 10:07pm
 
Jeff, I had the same question.  I know my polished concrete floor does.  Can't imagine the painted floor not being pretty slippery with a coat of dust on it too.
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Reply #5 - Sep 20th, 2012 at 11:13am
 
I don't seem to have a problem with the floor getting slippery, even when I lived up north where the humidity is very low.  I do not recommend this for a floor if you come in with snow on the bottom of your shoes/boots. One can put anti-slip (sandblasting sand) in the paint for traction, however that defeats one advantage (easy clean-up) of the paint.

I wear a good pair of comfortable shoes that have a thick rubberized sole.  I have found them to be better than working on a rubber mat, but I have both.

Jeff and Doug, you brought up a very good point smiley=thumbsup.gif and time will tell, but my experience is that I have found (so far) that I don't slip around on this floor. 

I started to work on an order of 35 pens last night (cut the blanks and drilled them).  The quilted maple shavings from the table saw and drilling did not seem slippery underfoot.

I will be sure to pass along any negative results that I have with the floor paint.
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Reply #6 - Sep 20th, 2012 at 5:23pm
 
My epoxy floor paint is slicker than snot when the chips and dust settle.  One of the reasons I keep it quite clean out there.  One thing you can do is to add sand to the paint or epoxy before putting it down to give you a bit of grip.  I'll be giving that a go when it's time to redo it.
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Reply #7 - Sep 20th, 2012 at 6:34pm
 
Dave - you could try softer shoes or get yourself an anti-fatiuge floor mat.  I use some soft soled anti-marking black shoes that have great grip and are more comfortable than tennis shoes.  I believe the maker is Rockport.  Something like these:

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Reply #8 - Sep 21st, 2012 at 2:03pm
 
Looks very nice Tom!
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Reply #9 - Sep 24th, 2012 at 2:32pm
 
Looks good. Did this same thing to my garage floor 4-5 years ago. Wish I had a dollar for everytime my boys have run into the garage after a rain and slid across the floor. They just never listen.
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Reply #10 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 6:31am
 
I'm with Tom on the slippery issue.  Both my garage and the shop have epoxy on the floors.  Both are smooth/polished and never had a problem with them being that slippery----not that I've pushed the issue with any testing.  If anything, the chips and saw dust add a bit of friction I think.  The paint used is a one part semi gloss water based epoxy----whatever that is.  It was the cheaper garage paint I could get at the local big box.
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Reply #11 - Oct 6th, 2012 at 1:34am
 
I used a water based concrete floor paint on my basement floors over 15 years ago. They finally need repainting now. They are much easier to sweep, and there is no longer a problem with the concrete "dusting" or leaving a dirt film on things laying on the floor. I think it is Block tite brand paint. Applied by first getting the floor damp before painting, it soaks in very well and has not peeled, despite the floor being very old and having no vapor barrier. I used a dark red color, which shows very well where any dirt might be, fortunately and unfortunately. It was well worth the minimal effort to do.
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Reply #12 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 7:15pm
 
That's where I stand right now, I just finished sheetrocking the place and am having a pellet stove installed in a week for winter working, now I have to decide what to do on the concrete floor before the stove comes in??
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Reply #13 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 7:36pm
 
You might want to leave a square under the stove that is not painted.  Frequently the heat will buckle floor paint.
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Reply #15 - Oct 29th, 2012 at 6:14pm
 
Update - I said that I would give a report back on how slippery the floor is underfoot when turning:

When turning wood that is green, I have no issue and I find that if there are turnings underfoot or not, I have good grip.

When turning very dry wood, I have found that it can be a bit slick.  However, when I experience this condition I find that I can fix it by cleaning off the bottoms of my shoes or getting MORE larger shavings under me (it is the finer dust that really causes the slick condition).

For me, it is well worth the ease of cleaning.  If I had to do it over, I would not change a thing (unless it woudl be to try a latex paint rather than oil based to avoid the stink).

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Reply #17 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 11:37pm
 
Is it just me, or would that 2436 make ANY floor look fantastic??   smiley=thumbsup.gif

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Reply #18 - Jan 10th, 2013 at 9:44am
 
I just moved to Connecticut and have a 24 x24 garage area that I'm turning into my woodworking shop. I painted the floor with epoxy paint $34.00 a gallon,, took me 2 1/2 gallons to do. I did have the option to tile it, but that would have been slippery with the sawdust and wood shavings. I just started turning, but have been carving and working with wood for 35 years. I think turning is about to take over, really enjoying it. Back to the floor,,definitly painted is better especially for sweeping up.
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Reply #19 - Jan 10th, 2013 at 12:05pm
 
Any sealed, painted or epoxied floor can get slippery, what you can live with is up to you. I use the haevy perferated rubber floor mats by all my machines. They keep me from slipping and are anti-fatigue to a point. Lathe chips don't really got to slippery IMO, but if you do any extensive cutting of MDF it's like an ice rink. The dust from that stuff is amazing, a combination of wood and adhesive resin somehow results in a new anti-friction compound. The thought of doing a split while holding a running circular saw was all I needed to get my first mats.
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I'll look into them,,they are at Lowes and Home Depot too I think,,,Thanks
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Reply #22 - Jan 11th, 2013 at 6:24am
 
I was just in Lowes today picking up venting pipe for the pellet stove I put in the garage, and saw the mats there. I think I may get a few packs of them for the lathe, table saw and drill press area. Thanks
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Reply #23 - Jan 11th, 2013 at 2:00pm
 
Been using a similar mat from Harbor Freight for a long time myself.  They sure do cut down on the cold being transmitted up through my boots during the winter.  They also lend a good bit more energy for turning by not causing me to get so tired standing on a cement floor.  As for clean up, when I do bother, I simply pick up the mats, give a quick sweep, and lay the mats right back down between the legs of the lathe.  When by chance I want to just gather up the heavy stuff, the curlies and dust sweep off the mat with ease, nearly as easy as the concrete.
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Reply #24 - Jan 11th, 2013 at 9:51pm
 
I would do the same thing with the heavy stuff,,,but I do have a cat that likes to use my heavy stuff if I don't sweep and vacuum the area,,,but at least that keeps me after my mess,,LOL
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Reply #25 - Jan 12th, 2013 at 12:04pm
 
I apinted my floor with the two-part epoxy.  I have not had a problem with shaving/sawdust causing a slippy problem.  However there have been some small areas (2/3 foot diameter) that you could not stand on.  I just poured a little acohol and wipe it with towels and took care of the probel.  never have figured out what I spilled on it.
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Reply #27 - Apr 7th, 2013 at 1:15pm
 
I need to do something with my garage/shop floor.  Been looking at the epoxy based stuff.  The other day at home depot I noticed concrete stain.  Anyone used this or know how it is different than painting the floor? 

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Reply #28 - Apr 8th, 2013 at 11:41am
 
Larry,

This past weekend I painted the other half of my garage floor.  I used the same stuff I used on the other half - oil based concrete paint (inexpensive at Lowes ~$17/gallon). One gallon does one bay, so at that cost, I would rather recoat the floor a few times than apply a more costly material (epoxy here is about $80/kit).

I do not think stain will fill the pores in the concrete floor, so cleanup will not be any easier with the stain.  I was looking for a finish that would clean up easily (1x with a broom).

As I mentioned, I painted the floor.  I did that on Sunday morning at about 9 AM.... it is still tacky this morning.  I opened the garage goor a crack on Sunday afternoon to let the fumes out, however it snowed about 8 inches on Saturday and the temperature this morning was 10 F, so it is not curing quickly.  I look to apply two coats, so ...  all the stuff in my garage is packed around my lathe ... no turning for me until the second coat dries. bang head  I hope to apply the second coat tonight.  The weather guy is calling for another 7 to 14 inches of snow in the next 48 hours...ugh! smiley=doh.gif

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Reply #29 - Apr 8th, 2013 at 3:49pm
 
That sure does look great.  I wish I would have painted mine last year when I emptied it out to insulate and drywall it.

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Tom Coghill wrote on Apr 8th, 2013 at 11:41am:
Larry,

This past weekend I painted the other half of my garage floor.  I used the same stuff I used on the other half - oil based concrete paint (inexpensive at Lowes ~$17/gallon). One gallon does one bay, so at that cost, I would rather recoat the floor a few times than apply a more costly material (epoxy here is about $80/kit).

I do not think stain will fill the pores in the concrete floor, so cleanup will not be any easier with the stain.  I was looking for a finish that would clean up easily (1x with a broom).

As I mentioned, I painted the floor.  I did that on Sunday morning at about 9 AM.... it is still tacky this morning.  I opened the garage goor a crack on Sunday afternoon to let the fumes out, however it snowed about 8 inches on Saturday and the temperature this morning was 10 F, so it is not curing quickly.  I look to apply two coats, so ...  all the stuff in my garage is packed around my lathe ... no turning for me until the second coat dries. bang head  I hope to apply the second coat tonight.  The weather guy is calling for another 7 to 14 inches of snow in the next 48 hours...ugh! smiley=doh.gif

Maybe its time for me to work on my surface texture technique on my completed turned projects... 


This is food for thought.  I would be very happy with the results in your photos.  My concrete floor has suffered from 40 years of abuse and looks like it.  I'll probably have to do some surface grinding no matter which product I end up using.
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I have painted nasty floors with two part epoxy at the airport.  There is an acid etch that is not very expensive but will clean the floor of all that matters for the paint to adhere.   They don't look absolutely clean after the etch, but it is all that is needed.
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I have painted nasty floors with two part epoxy at the airport.  There is an acid etch that is not very expensive but will clean the floor of all that matters for the paint to adhere.   They don't look absolutely clean after the etch, but it is all that is needed.


That would be a heck of a lot easier.  Might have to put this on the list of things to get done this year.
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Reply #33 - May 12th, 2013 at 11:09am
 
I used the epoxy paint a few years back.  It is nice for sweeping up and for brightening up the shop.  But what I like best is it works real well as a moisture barrier.  We live next to a river and the concrete garage floor used to soak up the moisture like a sponge from the soil and release it into the garage, now it doesn't Wink

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JimQuarles wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 7:39pm:
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Reply #35 - Aug 7th, 2013 at 9:37pm
 
looks nice!  I live in New Orleans and have a case of beer..... and my address is... LOL!!!   Grin
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Re: Shop Floor - PAINT THAT THING!
Reply #36 - Aug 7th, 2013 at 10:10pm
 
Just don't give them the beer until it is done.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Shop Floor - PAINT THAT THING!
Reply #37 - Aug 7th, 2013 at 10:14pm
 
Ill Drink It Myself First!!!   Wink
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Reply #38 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 9:10pm
 
Looks good, I did my floor in 2005 and have just a few wear place's
As for slipping I haven't had a problem with dust or chips but I did put the non slip in my paint. Oh ya even with the non slip it cleans very easily.
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Re: Shop Floor - PAINT THAT THING!
Reply #39 - Jul 10th, 2014 at 12:45pm
 
I wanted to follow-up here.

I have found that for more than a year now my work (dry or wet) has been easily removed with a broom and dust pan from my standard oil based floor paint ($16 / gallon) from Lowes.  The paint has withstood spills of all sorts.  For the money I spend (and the time) it has served me much more time in the long run. 

Attached here are some photos during a recent rough-turning session with some wet Birch.  I was able to complete clean up the shavings from the floor in just 10 minutes.... Wink now I need to figure how to get that stuff off my work bench that is also covered with tools and such.... Angry


PS - this is not all the shavings - I had already filled 2 trash cans with shavings before I took these photos  - GREAT FUN!  Cool   ... I need to find someone with a horse and a barn ...
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Re: Shop Floor - PAINT THAT THING!
Reply #40 - Jul 11th, 2014 at 8:17pm
 
When we moved into our new house just over ten years ago, I painted the basement floor in what was to become my shop with the two-part epoxy paint.  I waited until I felt the concrete had cured well enough so it's been about nine years now.  it still looks great and sweeps up much like others here have experienced...very cleanly.

However, a few weeks ago, a piece of wax paper from a glue-up had fallen onto the floor and got covered with chips.  I didn't see it and stepped on it and my foot shot out from under me.  Luckily, I caught my balance, but even a few weeks later, that spot on the floor that was under the wax paper is slicker than ice.  Even in tennis shoes, whenever I step on it and put any sideways motion on it, it's like stepping on a wood floor in socks after the wife oversprayed Pledge while waxing the furniture.

The point here is if you paint the floor, be very careful with scraps of wax paper lest you wax the floor.
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Re: Shop Floor - PAINT THAT THING!
Reply #41 - Jul 30th, 2014 at 9:23am
 
Wow, I had no idea the painted floor would make that big of difference.... Looks great
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