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Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:51pm
 
Walt posted a picture of the jig he uses.  I thought this would be a good time to post the jig we each use in segmented turning.  Mine is a simple adjustable jig.  It rides in the miter slot.  I use a fine tooth 3/8 blade.  The only thing you might not be able to tell from the picture is the wing nut on the far left side is the fixed pivot point, and I clamp a stop block with a c-clamp.  I use the same type of jigs for my table saw but the jig slides in the left miterslot and the segments drop away from the blade.  I use the bandsaw to cut segment for my minatures and the tablesaw for full size turnings.
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Re: Bandsaw Segment Jig
Reply #1 - Apr 1st, 2013 at 10:45am
 
Steve, thanks for sharing your sled photo. I think we'll find that many others use a very similar design. Your style is easy to build and as accurate as you want to make it.
I don't use the BS for cutting segments too often, only for smaller items, approx. 3/4" and under. I use a 0 angle sled with angled inserts mainly because I just don't have the room for another sled.
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Reply #2 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:03am
 
Steve,

Really like that jig.  Is it adjustable or do you have one jig for each angle?

I need to take an afternoon off and come down and see your shop.  smiley=thumbsup.gif

All in all very nice and I WILL copy!!!
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Reply #3 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:46pm
 
CLIFF DE WITT  COME ON DOWN!!!  Yes it is adjustable, but I lock it down and don't move it again.  I use either 10 segment rings or 20, and have a jig for each!
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Reply #4 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 9:18pm
 
Steve -
I use a sled on my table saw with a Forrest blade that is dedicated to segments only.  With this set up I do not sand the joints.  I don't think that my band saws will cut as clean a joint as my table saw.  Do you use a disk sander to clean up to joints?
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Re: Bandsaw Segment Jig
Reply #5 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 9:35pm
 
Paul Gilbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 9:18pm:
I don't think that my band saws will cut as clean a joint as my table saw.Do you use a disk sander to clean up to joints? 

For me, the answer is yes.
I dislike sanding a lot so I try to avoid the need for it as much as possible. I primarily use my TS and SCMS. I only use the BS when it's a very small or tricky to clamp kinda cut.
I don't think there is any BS that will leave a glue ready surface.
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Reply #6 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 8:44pm
 
Paul,   I do as you and Ed.  I have a premium blade for my table saw dedicated only to segmented pieces.  I do not sand either.  Sanding only adds another step in which you can induce error.  If i am using the bandsaw the pieces are far too small to sand.  I have to rely on a sharp blade and a steady hand to minimize the glue line.  I think I get very good results.
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Reply #7 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 10:50pm
 
steve rost wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 8:44pm:
I have a premium blade for my table saw dedicated only to segmented pieces.I do not sand either.Sanding only adds another step in which you can induce error. 

I find this idea interesting.  Most segmenters that I've talked with or heard talk about their methods sand on a large disk sander to refine the angle and make it precise.  BTW, I like your idea better.
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Reply #8 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 6:53am
 
I want to throw one more thing out on using a sled on the table saw or bandsaw.  When I mill my fancy wood I mill 2 or three times more than I think I need.  I also mill scrap wood to the exact same size for test rings.  I refine my test rings (I may have to cut two or three complete rings)  till there are no gaps.
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Re: Bandsaw Segment Jig
Reply #9 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 9:44am
 
steve rost wrote on Apr 5th, 2013 at 6:53am:
I also mill scrap wood to the exact same size for test rings.I refine my test rings (I may have to cut two or three complete rings)till there are no gaps. 

While I don't go to the same extent as Steve, he brings up a good point about milling and stock preparation.
I think I'll start a new thread on this topic, since it is central to successful segmenting.
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Reply #10 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 1:50pm
 
What is the difference between band saw jig and band saw fence?
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Reply #11 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 6:09pm
 
Roscoe,  I had a little time to think about my answer.  Suprisingly it could be complex or quite simple.  I am choosing the simple road, if anyone else wants to chime in please do so.  A bandsaw fence and a bandsaw jig are both divices.  The fence is stationary, and used to guide the material up to and through the blade.  A bandsaw jig is a divice that moves with the material up to and thru the blade.  Of course there are variations,  woodworkers are very inventive!
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Reply #12 - Apr 8th, 2013 at 1:41pm
 
Thanks for that Steve. That answered my question. I know that band saw fence can be used in resawing. But when can we use a band saw jig?
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Reply #13 - Apr 8th, 2013 at 4:14pm
 
Roscoe, a BS fence is as Steve said, a stationary device. Fences are used as a guide for straight cuts and re-sawing. A BS jig is any device that is used to achieve a different cut that can be made by using a fence alone.
Some example are devices to hold your material at different angles for making shims, wedges or segments. There are devices to hold irregularly shaped materials, like a cradle for cutting round objects.
Basically anything that can be guided by the fence or pushed by a miter gauge or sled is a jig.
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Reply #14 - Apr 9th, 2013 at 2:53pm
 
Thanks Ed for the elaboration. I will be doing some band saw work next week.
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Reply #15 - Apr 9th, 2013 at 5:23pm
 
No problem Roscoe
Just ask, chances are pretty good that some here at WR has the answer.
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