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Sep 3rd, 2013 at 4:50pm
 
Trying to figure out this lathe. The tail stock and headstock do not align. Any help on aligning them would be appreciated.

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Re: Craftsman 113.23881 question
Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 5:38pm
 
How is it not lining up?  A picture might help
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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 7:00pm
 
If the misalignment is lateral, the tube can be adjusted. There should be a locking screw (allen head) on the head stock and tail stock end. Loosen them slightly, set the alignment, and retighten. It's a pretty common problem with that lathe.
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Reply #3 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:13pm
 
I don't see any adjustments on the tail and headstocks, maybe I'm just missing them. I'll look closer in the morning.

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Re: Craftsman 113.23881 question
Reply #4 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:38pm
 
Steve, look at the tail stock end of the tube, where it fastens to the bench. There is a hole in the fastening bracket. There should be an allen head screw in that hole that holds the tail stock end. I don't remember where the head stock screw is, but I believe its on the back side of the head stock near the bottom. If you go to Sears home page, you can probably find a copy of the manual for that lathe, which should tell you how to adjust the alignment.
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Reply #5 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 9:31am
 
Jim, Here is a pic of the tail stock. I don't see any hole or Allen head screw. I do have a copy of the manual, but no mention of alignment. I'll pick up on this in my next post with another pic.
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Reply #6 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 9:34am
 
Here is a pic of the side of the tail stock. There is a set screw and in the manual it says "the set screw, No. 30, in the tailstock should be checked occasionally to assure the proper pressure against the key and to keep tailstock at 90 degrees to the tubular bed". So it would seem to me that this is the adjustment, but no matter how I alter that screw the alignment does not change. Your thoughts?
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Reply #7 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 9:35am
 
One more pic. This is the alignment looking down from the top.
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Re: Craftsman 113.23881 question
Reply #8 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 10:11am
 
Steve, it's been 15 or 20 years since I played with that lathe, but the tube is adjustable. In the end of the tube at that tail stock end, there appears to be a slotted screw in your picture. That screw holds a cam inside the tube which holds the tube in place. There's another fastener in the head stock end, but I don't remember where it is. By loosening those screws, you can rotate that tube, and correct your alignment problem. You'll find that even a minor catch while turning will cause the tube to rotate slightly, knocking your alignment off. When I owned that lathe, after adjusting the tube 100 times, I found a solution. There's a square key on the bottom of the tube that runs the full length. Once I had it aligned, I put steel blocks on either side of the key, and screwed them to the bench so the tube can't rotate.
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Re: Craftsman 113.23881 question
Reply #9 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 10:18am
 
here is a manual that tells how to set up that vintage lathe an align the head stock to the tail stock. It appears that you lock the tail stock to the tube and then rotate the tail stockAND the tube in the Head stock  bore to get final alignment. It may be a bit fiddly but not too difficult.
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113.23881 Craftsman/Emerson 12" x 37" Lathe (tubular steel bed ...
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Dec 8, 2009 - Publication Details. Publication Class: Wood Working Machinery. Publication Title: 113.23881 Craftsman/Emerson 12" x 37" Lathe (tubular ...
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Re: Craftsman 113.23881 question
Reply #10 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 10:27am
 
Steve,

With those lathes it's not that difficult, but you need to familiarize yourself with the nuts and bolts, not too many of them in the older equipment compared to the ones made today. Don't be afraid to try things you can always return it to the way it was but you'll discover how it works and, like Jim, you'll figure out the cure to the problem.
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Reply #11 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm
 
Thanks I'm eager to monkey with it when I get home
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Reply #12 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 4:17pm
 
Success!!! Thanks everyone for your patient and diligent help. It aligned perfectly after I removed the lathe from it's bench stand so I could find the set screw as Jim and Bert indicated. I think I may need to bore a hole in the stand top so I can get to the set screw with removing the entire lathe.

Thanks again - aren't forums great!
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