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Help: Safety Minute at Monthly Meeting
Dec 6th, 2013 at 1:03pm
 
I have “volunteered” (appointed yesterday) to have the safety minute at our monthly woodturning meeting tomorrow Shocked

I have pieced together the info below for that meeting from this site and the AAW forum.  Any good short topics you could add would be appreciated:

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Use ESCAPE injury as your guide.

Equipment - learn the tool your using, off/on, where to stand and etc.
Surroundings - clean, organized, where things are, main shutoffs (breaker box) and etc.
Clothing - appropriate dress, shoes, hair ties and etc.
Ability - understand your level, limitations, think before you act and etc.
Protection - faceshield, safety glasses, gloves and etc. (these may change per job being done but use what is necessary for the job)
Example - be a leader and do the other five in your shop, demonstrating or teaching

A recent posting on a web site noted “of my turning friends having hospital visits” yeilding this result:

4   have been hurt on the bandsaw
2   by wood coming off the lathe
1   by wood breaking apart. Would have been insignificant if they had used a face shield
1   on the grinder
1   with a hand chisel
1   with a hand drill
0   with a chain saw!  People don't day dream when chain sawing.....
It’s the routine things that seem to get us in trouble.  Try to keep your mind in the present – like when you are driving home.

Finally, potential energy:  We recognize the kinetic energy of spinning wood, or the potential energy of heavy things stored on high shelves, but also remember energy less obvious like air compressors or chemical energy (the heat given off when CA glue sets up).

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Re: Help: Safety Minute at Monthly Meeting
Reply #1 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 1:45pm
 
I think it's a good safety foundation. A few things you may way to add (in your own words of course).
No turning or any woodworking when tired, distracted, in a hurry, etc, etc...
If it doesn't "feel" correct, it most likely isn't. This goes with, It's okay to stop the lathe and check your progress, especially working with suspect wood.
Let someone know, Hey I'll be in the shop for an hour pr two, that way if they don't hear from you they will come and check.
Have others flick the lights off and on to get your attention when working. There's nothing worse and potentially dangerous than being startled when you are engrossed in your work.
Personally, I think the first item is the most important.
Tom Coghill wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 1:03pm:
Equipment - learn the tool your using

Knowing your tools, all of them, powered or hand, understanding their capabilities and their limitations is the best way I know of keeping yourself safe, and can not be emphasized enough.
This also applies to your final statement.
Too many times we hear stories where folks didn't have a good enough understanding of all of the variable involved in the procedure they are doing and this causes an accident.
Great point about the CA glue, you could do another whole safety minute on chemicals alone.
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Reply #2 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 1:56pm
 
"Stay out of the line of fire"....
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Reply #3 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 2:31pm
 
Looks good.  A couple of additions...

1)  Fire safety.  Have fire extinguishers in place and accessible.  Don't overload circuits.  Proper storage of finishing materials and proper disposal of potentially flammable finishing rags. 

2) Dust.  Talk about the need to wear a decent dust mask, dust collection, etc. 

3)  Have a telephone close at hand.  In case something goes wrong, make sure you have a cell phone with you.  If my battery is below 25% I won't go into my shop.  That way, I can call for help if something goes wrong. 

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Reply #4 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:20pm
 
  Sounds like the acronym ESCAPE can be broken down after your initial presentation to a monthly safety reminder ie. Jan. is E, Feb. is S and so on and soforth and what have you.   Also adding to fire safety, this being the heating season for so many of us.  What heating systems are being used also concideration again to flamable vapors near the heating system.
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Re: Help: Safety Minute at Monthly Meeting
Reply #5 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:11pm
 
Ed Weber wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 1:45pm:
No turning or any woodworking when tired, distracted, in a hurry, etc, etc...

Or after ANY alcohol!
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Reply #6 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:50pm
 
Clean your shop.  There is a reason pro shops cleanup at the end of the day.
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Reply #7 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 12:05pm
 
I have thought a number of times about a collection for display that shows dangerous pieces of wood. I have been traveling with a 1 inch thick end cut slab from a sugar maple. It had a nice brown ring about an inch in from the outside of the tree. It was solid when cut green. As it dried, it did what I expected. It was ring shake, and it separated around half of the piece. Some would look at it and think 'design feature' while I looked at it and thought 'danger'. Another would be a bark inclusion that goes through a crotch piece.

Ian 'Robbo' Robertson in Australia has several nice clips up on You Tube about general safety. Excellent for those with less experience, in the intermediate and beginner range. Many are familiar with his clip on what can go wrong when you use a spindle roughing gouge on a bowl blank. He actually draws some blood. I think he has a clip or two up in the video section here.

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Re: Help: Safety Minute at Monthly Meeting
Reply #8 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:19pm
 
Tom,
Tried to post this morning but I must have done something wrong, for I was "suspended" from the site after I PM'd you.  I guess I have paid my time for I am once again an official member.
Any, my safety comment had to do with ear protection.  I wear ear muffs when I'm at the bandsaw, chainsawing and when I have my dust collection system on.  As we get older, of course I'm not talking about myself Shocked, our hearing naturally begins to fade.  No need to accelerate the process.
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Reply #9 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 12:39pm
 
Never make tool sharpening the last thing you do before leaving your shop. Always stay around at least fifteen minutes so that  sparks can make visible SMOKE!

Absolute rule: Leave the shop after you make the FIRST mistake! Don't wait until the ambulance is called before you admit your too tired. : (
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Reply #10 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 12:43pm
 
On that note, do not have your dust collector pulling from the area around your sharpener.
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Reply #11 - Jan 6th, 2014 at 11:40am
 
I did a demo this weekend at our monthly meeting.  In that demo I charred some wood using a weedburner inside the wood framed, non-sprinklered , non-fire detected, wood storage warehouse.  I did this ON the lathe, surrounded by shavings.  All-in-all not an ideal situation Shocked

I knew this going into the demo and BEFORE I STARED I distributed 3 fire exinguishers to the people in the front row.

Nothing bad happened Smiley, but planning for the worst is the best prevention of bad results.

Think "Whats the worst that could happen here?" and take steps to prevent those things from happeneing. Thumbs Up
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Reply #12 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 2:49pm
 
I joke at work, but I'm dead serious, that you are most dangerous when you think you know what you're doing. When you aren't sure, you tend to take more time and make sure everything is correct before you complete what you were doing. When you "think" you know what you're doing, you take short cuts and often do things that if you'd taken just a few seconds to think about them, would never have done.

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Reply #13 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:43pm
 
Robert Harper wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 2:49pm:
... do things that if you'd taken just a few seconds to think about them, would never have done....

That very similar to what I tell the guys who work for me (in a not-physically-dangerous environment).  "There is no emergency so dire that you cannot take a minute to THINK about what you are about to do."  Then I follow up with the story about the computer operator who entered one command wrong and cost the company $70 million.  That was not a good day for me or him.
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Reply #14 - Sep 8th, 2014 at 3:34pm
 
Safety oops from the Shop.

I was working on a jig last Saturday evening.  This jig would allow me to use a hole saw on the edge of a turning when the center of the hole was outside the turning (like taking a small bite out of a large cookie).  These specifics don't matter much, but the physics do.

The hole saw I was using was larger than I usually use, in that this one was 4 inches in diameter.  The teeth of the 4 inch hole saw are similar to the teeth of a 6 TPI bandsaw blade. I was using a corded drill motor (3/8 inch DeWalt).

I wanted an angled hole (another important point).

ALWAYS:  when using a hole saw make sure the pilot bit remains in the wood.  The importance increases with the diameter of the hole saw. 

•      It is easier to have the contrary happen when trying to drill an angled hole.

•      It is easier to have the contrary happen when drilling a larger hole.

ALWAYS: When advancing a hole saw in an existing hole, always start the drill rotating slightly disengaged from the wood and slowly introduce the bit to the wood.

•      If the bit starts already in contact with the wood and the diameter is large, the chances are there will be more torque than your grip can manage.

•      Just like on your lathe, rotational inertia is greater with larger diameter item, thus the larger diameter item is not likely to stop quickly once its rotating.

What DID happen:  From what I have said above you can quickly figure out that bad things happened quickly Shocked.  Upon re-starting to deeped an existing hole the drill motor and large bit were torn from my grip, but only after I managed to fully pull the trigger of the variable speed drill, and started only what I can describe as a chaotic dance across my workbench only to return to attack the hand that was using it.  The teeth of the saw took a liking to the thick fleshy part of my right palm  Embarrassed.  It proceeded up my palm to my wrist before I was able to back out of the “line of fire”.  The good news is this is an area of the hand has thick skin.  No muscle or nerves were involved.

I have included a photo, not for any added gore factor Shocked, but so that everyone reading this article will understand that even our small hand tools need to be respected and used with care.  The photo was taken two days after the event.  On the day following the event, I went to the range and sighted in a new handgun (I am right handed), and although this injury was on my right hand and less than 18 hours old, it was not bad enough to stop me from continuing my day-to-day plans ( I also mowed the lawn, but no one wants to show off photos of a lawn Grin).  I finished the jig later that evening and I will use it tonight.

Stay safe everyone!

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Ouch! Glad you weren't hurt worse..
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Reply #16 - Sep 8th, 2014 at 11:10pm
 
Tom, glad you're okay and you are able to continue with life's important activities--mowing the lawn  Grin  It must not have been too deep since you didn't get stitches.  I've had some interesting experiences with electric drills too.  They can sure produce a lot of torque Shocked
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Reply #17 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:35am
 
"Safety oops from the Shop."
Whenever I drill with a hole saw or large spade bit I use my Makita 6302H 1/2" drill with a side handle.
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Reply #18 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:54am
 
Tracy Tame wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:35am:
Whenever I drill with a hole saw or large spade bit I use my Makita 6302H 1/2" drill with a side handle.


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Reply #19 - Sep 11th, 2014 at 1:48pm
 
I am a timber framer.  We use many dangerous tools on a daily basis.  Most notably are 16" circular saws.  We often use the circular saws of all sizes to perform many cuts including vertical "drop" cuts.  There is a technique to adhere to for maintaining safety. 

We preach technique and focus because many of accidents happen with lack of technique or complacency. 

A first aid kit should be in everyone's shop.  Store the kit in a highly visible and accessible area.  Keep its contents up to date!

Have some means of communication for emergency service. 

My wife and I have come up with a plan.  Every couple hours I check in with her... Or she comes to check on me.  I often try to have friends in the shop with me.  Making the check ins unnecessary. 

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Reply #20 - Nov 9th, 2014 at 8:10am
 
I was turning a piece of zapote that burned my throat and i hacked for over an hour yes i should have worn a respirator but i have turned a lot of different wood and nothing like this happened. now i look up as many woods that i can before i turn. just thought it was a good topic for safety
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Reply #21 - Nov 9th, 2014 at 1:23pm
 
In addition to new woods, sometimes overexposure to woods you turn regularly will present a sudden, unexpected breathing reaction.  That is in addition to the damage to your lungs that any dust causes.  It is a cumulative effect.  Think of wood dust like coal dust and the problems with "Black Lung" disease.
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Reply #22 - Nov 9th, 2014 at 2:36pm
 
Thanks for this thread,all great advise and good reminders.As a recent recipient of a goose egg on my forehead and a black eye resulting from a combination of using weak plywood ,expecting it to hold my bowl on the lathe and not standing off the line of fire, along with no face shield,while finishing and polishing . That woke  me up,but better yet would be to take to heart all the above postings. Smiley
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Reply #23 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 8:44am
 
Kathy Jekel wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 1:56pm:
"Stay out of the line of fire"....


Kathy said it all in 7 words. When I was a teen I saw someone lose 2 and a half fingers on a table saw slip. I developed a respectful fear of bladed and other sharp objects. I'm and old man (74) that has played with wood from building houses to pens since a teen and have never been cut. Fear is the biggest deterrent to dangerous accidents. I'm scared of bullets too so keep my head down.
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Reply #24 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 8:57am
 
Well...  I have has a few minor cuts requiring band-aids while carving but I was by knowingly taking stupid chances. I have much less fear of a skin cut than an amputation. My input...  Fear those dangerous tools capable of amputation, chemicals that can seriously hurt you, and clutter of course.
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Reply #25 - Feb 27th, 2015 at 10:53pm
 
Glad you weren't hurt any worse then that,what happened is bad enough.
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Found this online looking to see if prickly ash was a good wood to turn, it kind of amazed me to discover there are so many verities of wood itself that could be toxic, also working around a wood pile collecting some nice pieces of turning stock I found my self facing a very unhappy snake when I pulled a log from a pile, 
I drive a truck for a living our company motto, Safety All The Time!
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Reply #27 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:44pm
 
I've had a couple bowl blanks whiz past my ear.  About 30 yrs ago, while roughing out a bowl blank about 10" dia.  (Too fast, too inexperienced, etc.) I had a dig in.  The force broke the 3/4" tool post and slammed a fingertip between chisel and the banjo.  That fingertip is wider than it used to be.  My dad's comment at these events was "Well, did you learn anything?"
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Reply #28 - Oct 28th, 2016 at 10:05pm
 
I would have to agree with most here. Enforce the thought of getting to & understand your equipment. Several of the injuries we see here are from the fact that knowing the equipment, when you really don't. Study & research the equipment you are about to use. KNOW its capabilities!

Hearing protection, well, from a personal stand point, that is a matter of choice. I'm one of those ol' guys thats' been around equipment most of my life, & I've been taught to listen to the machine I'm running. I'm not able to hear much with hearing protection, so it's not a necessity for me.

Dust masks should be pushed! Every breath of air you take in your shop is loaded with dust. To protect your own lungs, take the initiative to do so.

Stay out of the line of fire! you never know when a piece is goin to fly apart!

As a newbie, I've learned that if it doesn't quite feel right, it probably isn't. But, I take more time in decisive work & design. Sometimes I have an idea or design when I start turning, & by the time I get close to the end of it, I may change my ideas. A good, sharpened tool helps with that decision.

My apologies for the ramble, but, these are just things I've learned in 24 years of woodworking. jm .02. Thumbs Up
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