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Chris Neilan
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Modified the wedgie sled- safer
Apr 13th, 2016 at 9:01pm
 
I modified my wedgie sled after viewing a video on YouTube by Frank Howarth. Easy mod and I highly recommend checking out his video.
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The modifications start at about 4:30 into the video.
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Re: Modified the wedgie sled- safer
Reply #1 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 12:25pm
 
Nice idea for a mod. How many shops have a 3 axis router in it? ENVY!!!

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Reply #2 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:51pm
 
Glen.  Not just have one but one that size.  I think I have shop envy.
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Reply #3 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 5:35pm
 
A couple small safety notes.
At 4:00-4:18 he (frank howarth)  picks up his cut segments from next to a running blade.
This is just a bad idea.
You should turn off the saw and wait for the blade to stop. At the very least, use a push stick to move the segment farther away from the blade.

At 3:49 you can see the fence it too close to the sled (he's using the fence to hold a stop block). The reason I say it's too close is because the size of the segment he is cutting can wedge between the fence and the blade. This is not safe.
Using the fence to hold a stop block is fine but you need to allow enough room for the cut piece to move freely away from the blade as mentioned above.

At 5:14 he bends down and gets a direct eye view of the board he's planing. He's lucky that's all he got.
This is something you should never do. Pieces of wood can be thrown out of a planer a very high speeds and cause serious injury. Never put your face down there. (in the line of fire)

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Reply #4 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:46pm
 
I prefer to use a zero clearance insert and angle fence that make the segment piece fall away from the blade and I can cut several pieces before they pile up to the point I have to shut down and clear away the pieces.
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Reply #5 - Apr 17th, 2016 at 7:25am
 
That's a good idea Rob  Smiley

Would less of a ledge help the segments fall away instead of sitting on top? The reason I ask is I've made segments that where 0.75" x 0.25" x0.5".

I typically use a sled to catch the pieces and remove them as I pull the sled back.
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Reply #6 - Apr 17th, 2016 at 9:35am
 
I don't often cut in this manner but when I do,I use a piece of slick material like melamine with the angle right to the blade. (not top ledge)
I prefer a fence that covers or supports the entire cut (left, right & top) that will push the cut piece entirely passed the blade. Also less chance for tear-out (fuzzies)
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Reply #7 - Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:46am
 
Ron Sardo wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 7:25am:
That's a good idea Rob  Smiley

Would less of a ledge help the segments fall away instead of sitting on top? The reason I ask is I've made segments that where 0.75" x 0.25" x0.5".

I typically use a sled to catch the pieces and remove them as I pull the sled back.


Less of an angel would help on very small segments,that would probably sit on the flat part of mine.But for larger segments,
I find that as the next segment is cut, it pushes the last one down and they seem to continually slide away from the blade.I have cut  24 segments without any problem of them coming anywhere close to contact with the blade ,they just push each other further along.Instead as Ed suggested earlier of how Frank in his video should have stopped his saw after every cut to retrieve the segment ,instead of reaching in close to a moving blade.My method keeps ones hands well away from the blade,no need to retrieve the segment after each cut.
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Reply #8 - Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:50am
 
Ed Weber wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 9:35am:
I don't often cut in this manner but when I do,I use a piece of slick material like melamine with the angle right to the blade. (not top ledge)
I prefer a fence that covers or supports the entire cut (left, right & top) that will push the cut piece entirely passed the blade. Also less chance for tear-out (fuzzies)
JMO


Ed , I would like to see a picture of your set up.I think on mine with that flat ledge it helps to support the piece though out the cut. A good blade and fuzzies not to much of a problem.
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Reply #9 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:39am
 
Rob Grindler wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:50am:
Ed , I would like to see a picture of your set up.I think on mine with that flat ledge it helps to support the piece though out the cut. A good blade and fuzzies not to much of a problem.


Rob, as I said, I don't cut using this method much at all. I prefer to have my cut piece be caged, clamped or held in some manner and not be the drop or cut-off.
The setup you showed does indeed support the segment. I was only commenting on what Ron mentioned about very thin (>1/8') sitting next to the blade. You do not need more than a point to support the fibers to aid the cut.
As of now my saw is not set up for segmenting, I will try to get you a photos sometime in a week or so. I will most likely put this in a new thread titled something like Segmenting Sled Styles.
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Reply #10 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:50am
 
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As of now my saw is not set up for segmenting, I will try to get you a photos sometime in a week or so. I will most likely put this in a new thread titled something like Segmenting Sled Styles.


No worries,am just curious how other people do things.A new thread about styles etc ,is a good idea. Thumbs Up
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Reply #11 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:41pm
 
Rob Grindler wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:50am:
A new thread about styles etc ,is a good idea. Thumbs Up


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Reply #12 - Apr 23rd, 2016 at 5:02pm
 
I am returning my wedgie sled back to the original design. The modified version works in theory, but in reality when pulling back the sled your cut piece will eventually hit your stop block and move it out of position. Not worth the frustration. You will never get the stop block back to exactly the same spot. It was worth a try...
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