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Grant Wilkinson
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Re: Lichtenberg Electric Etching
Reply #90 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 11:14am
 
Ed: I have seen that video. You're right, it's very good.

As for CJ, I don't look to him as a safety example, either, but, to be fair, he is using the unit as it's designed to be used.

I believe that I've been on my soapbox long enough on this issue. (Some would say too long, I'm sure.) It has been a very good discussion.

I would still like to hear of specific transformers that have worked for fellow forum members.
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Re: Lichtenberg Electric Etching
Reply #91 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 11:27am
 
I shudder when I see his hands on the cables in the CJ video.  That is why I made my unit to keep my hands 12" away from the cables and probes.

I wonder what kind of liability insurance Conestoga carries.
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Reply #92 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:22pm
 
Ed Weber wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 8:26am:
Ron Sardo wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 8:02am:
I agree with your first three paragraphs Grant, not sure I understand the fourth.


Again I'm with Ron on this topic.

I'm not trying to single anyone out when I mention price over safety but too many seem to want to go the least expensive route without considering the loss of some safety factors.
Everyone has to make their own choice, all we can do is to point out the potential dangers you may encounter.
Remember you are the most dangerous thing in your shop. Tools aren't dangerous until you misuse them.
Work safely everyone

Grant, did the turner in the video have the initials C.J.


When I have commented on cost perhaps being a factor in weather or not to spend the extra money ,it was also not ment to forgo safety .But more along the thought that as a hobbiest for the amount I would use any system would have to justify the cost.There are lots of other things that could be acquired instead for that money.
I am all on board with saftey being of utmost importance .It doesn't matter which unit you are using,they both can kill you,so taking the saftey precautions need to be followed no matter what you are doing.I don't have any problem with the safety factor being stressed over and over,and learning from others and their experiences with doing this.

My set up uses alligator clips to attach the wires ,then stand well back and don't touch anything.I also use probes with the PVC handles like many others, I have it set up so one probe is held in place by a weight so I am only holding one probe at a time.Then there are rubber gloves and mats etc.
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Re: Lichtenberg Electric Etching
Reply #93 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:37pm
 
Tom Brouillette wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 11:27am:
I wonder what kind of liability insurance Conestoga carries.


I'm not sure if you're being serious or not.
Once you purchase a product, the seller is no longer liable.
As long as there are clear instructions on how to operate the tool and hazard warnings in place, you are responsible for it's proper use. If the tool is defective in some way, then the seller might be liable.

Just about every tool I own can injure you in one way or another if you use it improperly.

As far as holding the probes, it's not as dangerous as it may look.
The electric current that is moving through the solution and wood surface wants to travel the path of least resistance. This path is from the hot probe (secondary coil) to the ground probe (earth or ground) Unless you become the path of least resistance to the ground, there is little danger. If the work area and you are properly insulated, the current will only travel where it can, between the probes.

Grant Wilkinson wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 11:14am:
As for CJ, I don't look to him as a safety example, either, but, to be fair, he is using the unit as it's designed to be used.

I would say "sort of"
C.J. and his work area should be using the same precautions as the artist in the Tim Yoder video.
And thanks for making me watch that all the way through. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #94 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 3:06pm
 
Ed Weber wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:37pm:
Once you purchase a product, the seller is no longer liable.

Not in this litigious world.

Even if a seller is proven innocent it still can them cost major bucks.

Even a cup of coffee can cost a seller millions of dollars because its to hot.
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Re: Lichtenberg Electric Etching
Reply #95 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 6:14pm
 
Grant

Thanks for your help and ideas and to everyone else also
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Re: Lichtenberg Electric Etching
Reply #96 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:46pm
 
Ron Sardo wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Not in this litigious world.

Even if a seller is proven innocent it still can them cost major bucks.

Even a cup of coffee can cost a seller millions of dollars because its to hot.


I suppose your right  Sad
While I can't speak for anyone else, as a general rule I try to keep scalding hot coffee and high voltage away from my "gentleman's area"
Safety first everyone
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