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Mystery Wood Glue Up?
Feb 13th, 2017 at 6:31pm
 
I have 2 pieces of a dark brown wood.Size is 1 1/2" by 3/4" thick 26 inches long.It is a hardwood.When you drill in it wood just gets stuck in drill bit sort of like granadillo does.It might be a rosewood but Im not sure.Anyhow Im a flute maker and I have done the necessary routing to turn it into a flute. After gluing up I will have to turn the 1 1/2" square into a flute shape. Question is the best glue for this type of wood.I normally use titebond 2 or 3 but I wonder on this one.I wondered about gorilla glue but it would be hard yo impossible to clean up some parts on the inside that I can not get to once it is glued together. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
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Re: Mystery Wood Glue Up?
Reply #1 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 7:17pm
 
Glue two scraps together to see what happens.

If its an oily wood degrease it with DNA
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Re: Mystery Wood Glue Up?
Reply #2 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 7:35pm
 
I'll add to what Ron said
I'm guessing your referring to the foaming of gorilla glue.
Most all polyurethane glues foam to a degree, although elmers offers one that isn't supposed to foam at all. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register
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Re: Mystery Wood Glue Up?
Reply #3 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 4:59pm
 
What about epoxy?
Wipe the wood down with acetone or DNA first, but a quality epoxy is a tough bond to break.

Does, or could the glue type affect the tone of the flute?
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Re: Mystery Wood Glue Up?
Reply #4 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:11pm
 
John Cepko wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Does, or could the glue type affect the tone of the flute?


I'm sure it could but to what degree it would affect the tonal characteristics I couldn't say.
Many Luthiers like to use hide glue but stringed instruments place different demands on the wood and glue than a wind instrument does. Flute makers may have their own favorite.

Back to the original question. just about any wood glue (PVA) gorilla glue (polyurethane) or epoxy will work, but each one has it's own unique properties.
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Re: Mystery Wood Glue Up?
Reply #5 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 11:14am
 
Mike,  I have always used Titebond 2 for gluing my flutes.  None have failed yet.
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Re: Mystery Wood Glue Up?
Reply #6 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 8:57pm
 
Ed Weber wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
[quote author=17323533021E382D36325D0 link=1487028662/3#3 date=1487368789]
Many Luthiers like to use hide glue 


My understanding is that luthiers prefer hide glue because it can be softened with heat, and when making stringed instruments, it's important that there be a way to take the instrument apart if repairs are ever needed.

With flutes or other woodwind instruments, I would be inclined to think that a concern would be that the glue might be softened by humidity, causing the instrument to inadvertently come apart in normal use.
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Re: Mystery Wood Glue Up?
Reply #7 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 9:02pm
 
That comment meant was to illustrate that certain disciplines have their own preferences of adhesives.
That's why I followed up with
Ed Weber wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
Flute makers may have their own favorite.


I wasn't advocating using hide glue on a flute
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