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Glossy finish
Mar 1st, 2017 at 8:53am
 
Having a hard time getting a high gloss finish  on my bowls. Can anyone recommend a product  or method they use to accomplish this.   Thank you
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Reply #1 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 9:21am
 
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Reply #2 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 9:23am
 
What are you using now that's giving you trouble?
There are many products that can achieve a 'high" gloss finish, it all depends on what you're looking for as a final result.
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Reply #3 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 9:44am
 
I've used a couple different walnut oils, Mahoney's and Doctors Workshop, Minwax Wipe on Poly clear gloss.  I'm a new turner so could part of the problem be that I'm not getting my bowls smooth enough.  Having a hard time with that, especially with the end grain sections.  Would more sanding smooth out those rougher sections or do I need to improve my turning skills or both.  Thanks again
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Reply #4 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 10:24am
 
Vic sinai wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 9:44am:
I've used a couple different walnut oils, Mahoney's and Doctors Workshop


First of all, these walnut oil products won't give you a "high" gloss finish. (they're not designed to)
Minwax Wipe-On-Poly can give you a high gloss finish but it will take several applications.
Wipe on products are typically less viscous (thinned) versions of regular poly and require more coats.
As far as sanding goes, end-grain will always absorb more finish then long-grain. once again, more coats of finish are usually required to fill the end-grain and give a uniform coating across the entire piece.
I don't know what your sanding procedure is so I can't really comment on that.
A photo is always helpful
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Reply #5 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 10:49am
 
Thank you.  Is there a method or product you like to get that finish.  My sanding is on a lathe with Abranet, 80 to 600, held by hand.  Bot some sanding wheels to put on my drill but they haven't arrived yet. Will that help?
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Reply #6 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 11:04am
 
I have had very good results with this product.  I apply multiple coats, each making the prior a bit more glossy.  Stop when it is right for your application.
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Reply #7 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 11:17am
 
Outstanding.  Thank you very much.  I'll get some today.  Do you sand between coats or is that covered in the instrux.  Thank you again
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Reply #8 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 11:35am
 
Just tried to buy it and the joys of living in California, no one stocks it, no one ships it.  Have anything else you like or maybe someone else?  Thx.
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Reply #9 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 11:57am
 
Vic, what is your zip code?

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Reply #11 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 12:03pm
 
Vic, take it easy.
Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register for the majority of my pieces.
You can also order their products from just about any woodworking vendor.
Now to the details.
Sanding with a power sander can give better results for several reasons, that's a whole different subject/thread.

Seal-A-Cell  (sealer)

An unusual combination of oils, urethanes and waxes, Seal-A-Cell Clear for decades has served craftsman as the best way to get that "natural" look on beautiful woods that aren't to be stained. The oils penetrate deep within the wood to highlight the warm natural look and the urethane ensures a deep hardness. Follow with multiple coats of Arm-R-Seal topcoat.

Arm-R-Seal   (top-coat)

Arm-R-Seal topcoats are made with only the highest quality urethane resin, making them extremely durable and long lasting. They are formulated to be wiped on with a cloth or applied with a foam brush, thus eliminating drips and sags. They penetrate to provide deep down protection and that "natural" look.

You can use Seal-A-Cell alone if you want
"Top Coats: Used alone or top coated with GF oil base Arm R Seal, GF Gel Satin or water base Enduro-Var, or High Performance"
But it will not provide as high of a gloss factor as Arm-R-Seal Gloss

This all assumes that you prefer oil-based finishes.
There are plenty of other brands and products that will produce a high gloss finish, it all depends on what you want.

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Re: Glossy finish
Reply #12 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 12:06pm
 
I apply it when the bowl is on the lathe.

I sand to 400, harder woods to 600.

I apply the finish to the wood while turning at slowest speed.  I use a small squeeze bottle and a small piece of blue paper towel to apply the coats.  Wet the surface evenly, no excess, as few passes as possible.  Let dry (~4 hrs) between coats.  If I need to sand it will be with a very fine pad (15000) and wetted with water.  Do not use a polishing compound between coats as some contain wax.  The final applications must be done in a dust-fee environment.

Good Luck!  Thumbs Up

PS - my higher gloss finishes may take more than a dozen coats.  look at each finish and stop when you feel the turning has the desired amount of shine.

PSS - Thanks Ed!  Great info!   I live in Alaska and have a VERY DIFFICULT time getting finishes here!! Sad
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Reply #13 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 12:13pm
 
I appreciate your help.  I tried Amazon and they wouldn't ship it, Rockler as well.  Home Depot doesn't show it on a search. 
Any suggestions as to how to get it?  Just looking for a high gloss application that I can use for decorative pieces.  Water based I believe is less toxic and would be better if it could produce the same finish but if not, I don't mind using other based finishes.  The end result is what I'm after.  Thanks again.
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Reply #14 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 12:19pm
 
Thx Tom as well.  Still trying to get it
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