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Reply #15 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 7:04pm
 
Hard to imagine how a screen could meet the standards for the high impact standard.  Wonderful if one does.
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Reply #16 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 8:02pm
 
Don Stephan wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 7:04pm:
Hard to imagine how a screen could meet the standards for the high impact standard.  Wonderful if one does.


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Reply #17 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 1:49pm
 
Change mic to one that clips over ear and comes around to the mouth. Like lecturer's use. (preacher too)

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Reply #18 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 4:46pm
 
Glenn - good idea.  I have used the ear-hook mic in the past.

I have found these (below) but I want to test these before buying. From reviews, weight and comfort is a personal factor that one must experience.

The info below was clipped from a listing found on Amazon.
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Reply #19 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 5:25pm
 
I had thought about using the mesh shields but to me they aren't very stout.  I have the equivalent of the one shown above with the ear muffs--it's great for chainsawing.  Doubt  I'd use it at the lathe---be ok for shavings but not the occasional chunk (which in my case would likely be bark). 
Now if you were away from the lathe danger area, then I 'd think that should suffice for a class situation.
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Reply #20 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 7:11pm
 
I got all giddy when I saw the hockey goalie masks!  I'm thinking, where's our Canadian friends, eh?  How about a mask like the one below!  A little pricey ($750), but beefy AND classy!  Cool

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Reply #21 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 7:41pm
 
Several of the vendors for the mesh face shields specifically say on their sites that these shields do not meet the criteria for a high impact.

Lynne Yamaguchi is using a police riot helmet like this one:  Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register .  Since we aren't dealing with bullets, a non-ballistic helmet with a face shield will do the trick.
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Reply #22 - Mar 9th, 2017 at 9:47am
 
Steve Kniffen wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 7:41pm:
Several of the vendors for the mesh face shields specifically say on their sites that these shields do not meet the criteria for a high impact.


Good point
If you're thinking about a safety product in the first place, you should probably get one that is safety rated for what you're doing.
The mesh shield I linked to states  "Meets ANSI Z87.1 standards for wire mesh"
The Uvex Bionic states "ANSI) rating of Z87.1-2003 for high impact protection"

On a side note, while I know unforeseen things happen (accidents), things flying off the lathe should not be the norm. Maybe some better work holding practices and methods may be in order. Always use caution (stop and inspect) when turning "suspect" wood.

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Reply #23 - Mar 10th, 2017 at 1:04am
 
As in the industrial world PPE (personal protective equipment) is a last line of defence, for when engineering and procedures fail. With Woodturning the line of fire avoidance is one of the most effective procedures.
Stay safe.
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Reply #24 - Mar 10th, 2017 at 7:50am
 
Bert Delisle wrote on Mar 10th, 2017 at 1:04am:
As in the industrial world PPE (personal protective equipment) is a last line of defence, for when engineering and procedures fail. With Woodturning the line of fire avoidance is one of the most effective procedures.
Stay safe.


Absolutely correct Bert!  If we work smarter, we'll be safer.
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Reply #25 - Mar 10th, 2017 at 8:12pm
 
My understanding is that the high impact rating compliance is indicated by Z87.1+ of Z87+.  The mesh faceshield, while no doubt more comfortable, only has a rating of Z87.1 on the linked web page which suggests it does not meet the high impact criteria.
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Reply #26 - Mar 10th, 2017 at 9:24pm
 
Thank you Don, I stand corrected.
"ANSI Z87.1 classifies eye protection as impact- or non-impact-rated. Impact-rated eye protection must pass certain high-mass and high-velocity tests, and provide eye protection from the side. Impact-rated eye protection will have a plus symbol (+). Impact-rated flat lenses, for instance, will be marked Z87+."

Personally, I don't have objects coming off my lathe at ballistic speeds. I also always wear safety glasses that are impact rated with of without a face shield.


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Reply #27 - Mar 11th, 2017 at 7:42am
 
Personally, I don't have objects coming off my lathe at ballistic speeds

I usually don't either.  Roll Eyes Shocked
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Reply #28 - Mar 11th, 2017 at 5:19pm
 
Just an update on this. I had a good look at my faceshield when I was out in the workshop earlier (must admit I never looked at the small print on it before!). It says on the shield, ANSI Z87+ I assume that's the impact rating?



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Reply #29 - Mar 11th, 2017 at 5:28pm
 
Michael Maye wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
I assume that's the impact rating?


That's the confusing part.
Yes your is "high" impact rated indicated by the plus.
Without the plus sign it has an impact rating (not high) but did not pass the high impact test.
You can do a google search for this sort of thing but the ANSI high impact rating (+) states something like it will withstand a 1/4" steel ball moving at 150 feet per second.
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