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Carolyn Ray WR Noob Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 3 Birmingham USA Gender: Jet 1642	european cypress Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 9:17am I have access to some green European cypress. Suggestions. Advice
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Ken Vaughan WR Addict Offline Still learning Posts: 3,685 Juneau Alaska USA Gender: Stubby 750 Jet 1014 vs Bonnie Klein Lathe	Re: european cypress Reply #1 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 11:42am Cypress is soft. Have only had a few small pieces. Did not like scrapers - carbide nor steel. Cuts with sharp steel worked without lots of tearout. Always got some tearout in end grain. Downhill cuts needed for spindles. If free, give it a try. If not free, needs to be cheap
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Ed Weber WR Administrator WR Patron Offline Posts: 8,939 Wilton California USA Gender: JET 1642 Grizzly G0584	Re: european cypress Reply #2 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 11:44am I'm not sure what access means but if it's free it might be worth taking. In my experience, European Cypress is more of a medium to large bush or shrub, I'm guessing you'll not be getting very large blanks out of it.
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Reply #3 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 9:07am

Ed Weber wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 11:44am:

I'm not sure what access means but if it's free it might be worth taking.
In my experience, European Cypress is more of a medium to large bush or shrub, I'm guessing you'll not be getting very large blanks out of it.

Depends on the kind of cypress she got. They can be pretty tall trees with large trunk.

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Reply #4 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 9:52am

StefanoBastianelli wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 9:07am:

Depends on the kind of cypress she got. They can be pretty tall trees with large trunk.

I thought i made myself clear as to my knowledge of European cypress.
"In my experience, European Cypress is more of a medium to large bush or shrub"
I know there are several species considered as cypress but to my knowledge, European Cypress are typically an ornamental planting. (many times in containers) Other than the Australian varieties of cypress the rest of the varieties I'm aware of are quite soft as Ken mentioned in his reply and not well suited for turning.
There are also many varieties of "false cypress" which are actually cedar. I believe (I'm not positive) that European is one of these varieties.
If there is a European Cypress "tree", not a bush or shrub, that s great.

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Bert Delisle WR Addict Offline Posts: 1,424 Calgary Alberta Canada Gender: Vicmarc 300	Re: european cypress Reply #5 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 10:07am Whatever it is, turn a piece and tell us what you think. If its wood it can make shavings, and sometimes a finished piece, . In any case the experience is the gratifying part. Go for it and share your view.
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Reply #6 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 10:28am

Ed Weber wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 9:52am:

StefanoBastianelli wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 9:07am:

Depends on the kind of cypress she got. They can be pretty tall trees with large trunk.

I thought i made myself clear as to my knowledge of European cypress.
"In my experience, European Cypress is more of a medium to large bush or shrub"
I know there are several species considered as cypress but to my knowledge, European Cypress are typically an ornamental planting. (many times in containers) Other than the Australian varieties of cypress the rest of the varieties I'm aware of are quite soft as Ken mentioned in his reply and not well suited for turning.
There are also many varieties of "false cypress" which are actually cedar. I believe (I'm not positive) that European is one of these varieties.
If there is a European Cypress "tree", not a bush or shrub, that s great.

Sure, it was just interesting. Because in Europe, the small cypresses are called California Cypress

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Ed Weber WR Administrator WR Patron Offline Posts: 8,939 Wilton California USA Gender: JET 1642 Grizzly G0584	Re: european cypress Reply #7 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 4:03pm If it's not local to where you are, it must be better somehow
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Bill Rockwood Active Member Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 218 Buena Park California USA Gender: Grizzly G0838 Excelsior 10x18 HF 8x12 (95607)	Re: european cypress Reply #8 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 12:35pm This is what I think of when I hear "California Cypress" - Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Might be big enough to turn...
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Ed Weber WR Administrator WR Patron Offline Posts: 8,939 Wilton California USA Gender: JET 1642 Grizzly G0584	Re: european cypress Reply #9 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 2:02pm And this is typically what are refereed to as European Cypress Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Not well suited for turning, maybe a pen
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StefanoBastianelli Full Member Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 55 Rochester New York USA Gender: Laguna Revo 1836	Re: european cypress Reply #10 - Apr 5^th, 2017 at 9:12am Ed Weber wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 2:02pm: And this is typically what are refereed to as European Cypress Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Not well suited for turning, maybe a pen Never saw one of those referred as European/med cypress Not common either.
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Reply #11 - Apr 5^th, 2017 at 9:44am

Let's start over.
The OP asked about European cypress, NOT European/Med cypress.
If you perform a internet search using the keyword "European Cypress" the vast majority of results you get are small-medium trees (shrubs) that are arguably better suited for container growing, rather than harvesting lumber.
Just as with many trees, this one has several common names, some of which make it's actual botanical origins more confusing. There are also other species "passed off" as one another, further confusing things.
While there are many articles on this species, IMO this one is concise and sums it up well.
"Known as a low-maintenance slow-grower, the European cypress tree reaches an average height of 10 feet and is commonly cultivated for gift-giving purposes during the holiday season. Cut the dead branches from a European cypress tree to prune it, but don't cut into old wood, as it's susceptible to both spruce and twig mites."
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These trees and others like them are quite common on the west coast.

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Re: european cypress
Reply #13 - Apr 5^th, 2017 at 9:56am

Ed Weber wrote on Apr 5^th, 2017 at 9:44am:

Let's start over.
The OP asked about European cypress, NOT European/Med cypress.
If you perform a internet search using the keyword "European Cypress" the vast majority of results you get are small-medium trees (shrubs) that are arguably better suited for container growing, rather than harvesting lumber.
Just as with many trees, this one has several common names, some of which make it's actual botanical origins more confusing. There are also other species "passed off" as one another, further confusing things.
While there are many articles on this species, IMO this one is concise and sums it up well.
"Known as a low-maintenance slow-grower, the European cypress tree reaches an average height of 10 feet and is commonly cultivated for gift-giving purposes during the holiday season. Cut the dead branches from a European cypress tree to prune it, but don't cut into old wood, as it's susceptible to both spruce and twig mites."
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These trees and others like them are quite common on the west coast.

Well, sorry. With European I was completely thinking to a different tree. So it is a California cypress..just kidding

But if it is not possible to ask and talk for understanding...we lose completely the meaning of a forum

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Reply #14 - Apr 5^th, 2017 at 11:05am

StefanoBastianelli wrote on Apr 5^th, 2017 at 9:56am:

But if it is not possible to ask and talk for understanding...we lose completely the meaning of a forum

We never try to silence anyone's voice or opinion.
On the contrary, now many people know more about Cypress trees than they did before.
I believe that it's important to be clear that we all know what it is we're talking about and that we're all talking about the same thing. Once we're all on the same page, then we can and often do, digress into everything else.

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In this circumstance, confusing a couple of different species of trees may not sound very important to some people but there are times when this sort of thing can have serious consequences for those with allergic reactions.
This is just one reason why I try to be accurate. (emphasis on try) When I'm not, hopefully others, as they've done in the past, will correct me.

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