Woodturner's Resource
Woodturner's Resource  
  Featured Artist    Websites   Support Wr
Tutorials, Projects & Tips   Event Calendar   Tool and Book Store
  Home Page Forum HelpSearch Map TPT Resources LoginRegister
 
Pages: 1 
Send Topic Print
european cypress (Read 560 times)
 
Carolyn Ray
WR Noob
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 3

Birmingham, USA
Birmingham
USA

Gender: female

Jet 1642
european cypress
Apr 2nd, 2017 at 9:17am
 
I have access to some green European cypress. Suggestions. Advice
Back to top
  

Saving one dog will not change the world, but surly for that one dog the world will change forever
 
IP Logged
 
Ken Vaughan
WR Patron
******
Offline


Still learning

Posts: 3,685

Juneau, Alaska, USA
Juneau
Alaska
USA

Gender: male

Stubby 750
Jet 1014 vs
Bonnie Klein Lathe

Re: european cypress
Reply #1 - Apr 2nd, 2017 at 11:42am
 
Cypress is soft.  Have only had a few small pieces.

Did not like scrapers -  carbide nor steel.

Cuts with sharp steel worked without lots of tearout.  Always got some tearout in end grain.  Downhill cuts needed for spindles. 

If free, give it a try.   If not free, needs to be cheap
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Ed Weber
WR Global Moderator
WR Patron
*****
Offline



Posts: 4,689

Wilton, California, USA
Wilton
California
USA

Gender: male

JET 1642
Grizzly G0584
Re: european cypress
Reply #2 - Apr 2nd, 2017 at 11:44am
 
I'm not sure what access means but if it's free it might be worth taking.
In my experience, European Cypress is more of a medium to large bush or shrub, I'm guessing you'll not be getting very large blanks out of it.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
StefanoBastianelli
Junior Member
*
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 35

Rochester, New York, USA
Rochester
New York
USA

Gender: male

Laguna Revo 1836
Re: european cypress
Reply #3 - Apr 3rd, 2017 at 9:07am
 
Ed Weber wrote on Apr 2nd, 2017 at 11:44am:
I'm not sure what access means but if it's free it might be worth taking.
In my experience, European Cypress is more of a medium to large bush or shrub, I'm guessing you'll not be getting very large blanks out of it.



Depends on the kind of cypress she got. They can be pretty tall trees with large trunk.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Ed Weber
WR Global Moderator
WR Patron
*****
Offline



Posts: 4,689

Wilton, California, USA
Wilton
California
USA

Gender: male

JET 1642
Grizzly G0584
Re: european cypress
Reply #4 - Apr 3rd, 2017 at 9:52am
 
StefanoBastianelli wrote on Apr 3rd, 2017 at 9:07am:
Depends on the kind of cypress she got. They can be pretty tall trees with large trunk.


I thought i made myself clear as to my knowledge of European cypress.
"In my experience, European Cypress is more of a medium to large bush or shrub"
I know there are several species considered as cypress but to my knowledge, European Cypress are typically an ornamental planting. (many times in containers) Other than the Australian varieties of cypress the rest of the varieties I'm aware of are quite soft as Ken mentioned in his reply and not well suited for turning.
There are also many varieties of "false cypress" which are actually cedar. I believe (I'm not positive) that European is one of these varieties.
If there is a European Cypress "tree", not a bush or shrub, that s great.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Bert Delisle
WR Devotee
*****
Offline



Posts: 1,424

Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Calgary
Alberta
Canada

Gender: male

Vicmarc 300
Re: european cypress
Reply #5 - Apr 3rd, 2017 at 10:07am
 
Whatever it is, turn a piece and tell us what you think. If its wood it can make shavings, and sometimes a finished piece, Cheesy. In any case the experience is the gratifying part. Go for it and share your view. Thumbs Up
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
StefanoBastianelli
Junior Member
*
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 35

Rochester, New York, USA
Rochester
New York
USA

Gender: male

Laguna Revo 1836
Re: european cypress
Reply #6 - Apr 3rd, 2017 at 10:28am
 
Ed Weber wrote on Apr 3rd, 2017 at 9:52am:
StefanoBastianelli wrote on Apr 3rd, 2017 at 9:07am:
Depends on the kind of cypress she got. They can be pretty tall trees with large trunk.


I thought i made myself clear as to my knowledge of European cypress.
"In my experience, European Cypress is more of a medium to large bush or shrub"
I know there are several species considered as cypress but to my knowledge, European Cypress are typically an ornamental planting. (many times in containers) Other than the Australian varieties of cypress the rest of the varieties I'm aware of are quite soft as Ken mentioned in his reply and not well suited for turning.
There are also many varieties of "false cypress" which are actually cedar. I believe (I'm not positive) that European is one of these varieties.
If there is a European Cypress "tree", not a bush or shrub, that s great.


Sure, it was just interesting. Because in Europe, the small cypresses are called California Cypress Smiley
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Ed Weber
WR Global Moderator
WR Patron
*****
Offline



Posts: 4,689

Wilton, California, USA
Wilton
California
USA

Gender: male

JET 1642
Grizzly G0584
Re: european cypress
Reply #7 - Apr 3rd, 2017 at 4:03pm
 
If it's not local to where you are, it must be better somehow  Undecided
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Bill Rockwood
Active Member
***
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 192

Buena Park, California, USA
Buena Park
California
USA

Gender: male

HF 1236 (34706)
Excelsior 10x18
HF 8x12 (95607)
Re: european cypress
Reply #8 - Apr 4th, 2017 at 12:35pm
 
This is what I think of when I hear "California Cypress" -
Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register

Might be big enough to turn...
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Ed Weber
WR Global Moderator
WR Patron
*****
Offline



Posts: 4,689

Wilton, California, USA
Wilton
California
USA

Gender: male

JET 1642
Grizzly G0584
Re: european cypress
Reply #9 - Apr 4th, 2017 at 2:02pm
 
And this is typically what are refereed to as European Cypress
Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register
Not well suited for turning, maybe a pen Undecided
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
StefanoBastianelli
Junior Member
*
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 35

Rochester, New York, USA
Rochester
New York
USA

Gender: male

Laguna Revo 1836
Re: european cypress
Reply #10 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 9:12am
 
Ed Weber wrote on Apr 4th, 2017 at 2:02pm:
And this is typically what are refereed to as European Cypress
Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register
Not well suited for turning, maybe a pen Undecided



Never saw one of those referred as European/med cypress Smiley
Not common either.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Ed Weber
WR Global Moderator
WR Patron
*****
Offline



Posts: 4,689

Wilton, California, USA
Wilton
California
USA

Gender: male

JET 1642
Grizzly G0584
Re: european cypress
Reply #11 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 9:44am
 

Let's start over.
The OP asked about European cypress, NOT European/Med cypress.
If you perform a internet search using the keyword "European Cypress" the vast majority of results you get are small-medium trees (shrubs) that are arguably better suited for container growing, rather than harvesting lumber.
Just as with many trees, this one has several common names, some of which make it's actual botanical origins more confusing. There are also other species "passed off" as one another, further confusing things.
While there are many articles on this species, IMO this one is concise and sums it up well.
"Known as a low-maintenance slow-grower, the European cypress tree reaches an average height of 10 feet and is commonly cultivated for gift-giving purposes during the holiday season. Cut the dead branches from a European cypress tree to prune it, but don't cut into old wood, as it's susceptible to both spruce and twig mites."
Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register
These trees and others like them are quite common on the west coast.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
StefanoBastianelli
Junior Member
*
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 35

Rochester, New York, USA
Rochester
New York
USA

Gender: male

Laguna Revo 1836
Re: european cypress
Reply #12 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 9:45am
 
Just asked and it is native to the Western United States

Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
StefanoBastianelli
Junior Member
*
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 35

Rochester, New York, USA
Rochester
New York
USA

Gender: male

Laguna Revo 1836
Re: european cypress
Reply #13 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 9:56am
 
Ed Weber wrote on Apr 5th, 2017 at 9:44am:
Let's start over.
The OP asked about European cypress, NOT European/Med cypress.
If you perform a internet search using the keyword "European Cypress" the vast majority of results you get are small-medium trees (shrubs) that are arguably better suited for container growing, rather than harvesting lumber.
Just as with many trees, this one has several common names, some of which make it's actual botanical origins more confusing. There are also other species "passed off" as one another, further confusing things.
While there are many articles on this species, IMO this one is concise and sums it up well.
"Known as a low-maintenance slow-grower, the European cypress tree reaches an average height of 10 feet and is commonly cultivated for gift-giving purposes during the holiday season. Cut the dead branches from a European cypress tree to prune it, but don't cut into old wood, as it's susceptible to both spruce and twig mites."
Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register
These trees and others like them are quite common on the west coast.

Well, sorry. With European I was completely thinking to a different tree. So it is a California cypress..just kidding Smiley
But if it is not possible to ask and talk for understanding...we lose completely the meaning of a forum
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Ed Weber
WR Global Moderator
WR Patron
*****
Offline



Posts: 4,689

Wilton, California, USA
Wilton
California
USA

Gender: male

JET 1642
Grizzly G0584
Re: european cypress
Reply #14 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 11:05am
 
StefanoBastianelli wrote on Apr 5th, 2017 at 9:56am:
But if it is not possible to ask and talk for understanding...we lose completely the meaning of a forum

We never try to silence anyone's voice or opinion.
On the contrary, now many people know more about Cypress trees than they did before.
I believe that it's important to be clear that we all know what it is we're talking about and that we're all talking about the same thing. Once we're all on the same page, then we can and often do, digress into everything else.

IMO
In this circumstance, confusing a couple of different species of trees may not sound very important to some people but there are times when this sort of thing can have serious consequences for those with allergic reactions.
This is just one reason why I try to be accurate. (emphasis on try) When I'm not, hopefully others, as they've done in the past, will correct me.

Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Larry Cutlip
WR Supporter
*****
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 38

Gainesville, Florida, USA
Gainesville
Florida
USA

Re: european cypress
Reply #15 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 11:45am
 
Personally, I don't care what kind of wood or what species it is. If it is large enough to get something out of it, even if it is small, I'm willing to give it a try.

Larry
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 
Send Topic Print