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Ian Bohannon
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Mystery Lathe
Apr 12th, 2017 at 12:43pm
 
After doing a little bit of research for a few months I've finally decided to bite the bullet and get my very own lathe. Time to make some chips!

I managed to find a good deal on an 90's used lathe. After some not-so close inspection, the front plate says "EIC Model 1000 Copy Lathe". I've never heard of EIC before and I can't seem to find any info online. I assume its a pretty cheap import. The copy tool only kinda works. Not a big deal, I can get it working pretty easily and I don't plan on using it too much.

The thing that really surprised me is the headstock and tailstock tools. Unfortunately it doesn't have MT shafts and is threaded with non-standard threads. I measured it with my calipers and I measured the tailstock at 1"-8, the headstock OD at 1 1/8"-12 and the ID at 5/8"-11. Does this seem right to anyone? These seem like really odd threads to me.

If I wanted to attach chucks, arbors etc.. is there anything I can do aside from replacing the shafts or the entire head/tail stocks? I haven't had any luck finding threaded MT shaft adapters.

Thanks in advance. I'm excited to start learning everything I can about wood turning!
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Reply #1 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 1:32pm
 
Some pics may help.
For Nova chucks (G3 & SN2) they offer two inserts to fit a 1-1/8X12 spindle.  I'm not sure if you need the "J" or the "U".
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Others may know of a tailstock live center that will fit the 1X8. All the ones I have used take a MT or are smaller.
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Re: Mystery Lathe
Reply #2 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 1:34pm
 
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That lathe may be a bit older than you are crediting it.

Some chuck vendors still offer a wider range of thread adapters.  Oneway still lists an adapter on thier web site for 1 1/8 by 12 threads.  That will allow you to fit a chuck to the headstock.

There were a number of lathes, before standardization to morse tapers in the '90s, that lack the ease of that tooling.  Those lathes require creativity or custom machining.  That is your situation at the tailstock.

One option could be to use a 1by8 ER collet holder as the mount and get straight shank machinist tooling to fit collets in the holder.  I used a Taig live center for several years with a Bonnie Klein lathe.   Just not as compact and tends towards more runout.

It can be fun bring old iron back to use.  It can also be frustrating and sometimes costly.

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Reply #3 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 2:04pm
 
Seems you found out why you got such a good deal!! Shocked
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Re: Mystery Lathe
Reply #4 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 3:43pm
 
Ian Bohannon wrote on Apr 12th, 2017 at 12:43pm:
I managed to find a good deal on an 90's used lathe.  After some not-so close inspection, the front plate says "EIC Model 1000 Copy Lathe".  I've never heard of EIC before and I can't seem to find any info online.  I assume its a pretty cheap import.

If you could post a picture, it would help.
I'm only guessing about your lathe but there are some common "1000 copy lathes' out there.
The 1000 usually stands for 1000mm between centers and there are many of these floating around, many with the three letter prefix. (MCF) (WLF)
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Reply #5 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:57pm
 
Thanks everyone for the input. Here's some pictures of the lathe
https ://goo.gl/photos/kJtL3SjW1x9xHMfw9

With that adapter piece for the Nova chucks and a few custom parts I think I should be able to use the thread on the headstock no problem. For the tailstock the threaded collet holder seems like the way to go. I'm also looking into possibly getting another tailstock and making a spacer mount to the ways. Does that seem like a feasible idea?
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Reply #6 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:02am
 
Ian

You might consider having the tailstock ram bored and reamed for a morse taper.  1 by 8 threaded lathes have enough thickness to accommodate a mt2 taper successfully. 

Cost could be prohibitive, but it might be worth a discussion if you know a local machinist. 


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Reply #7 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 8:17pm
 
I think this is the one you have and here is a link to a business that sells them

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