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Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:34pm
 
Need your help. Why is it that things don’t always turnout they way you see it in your head.  The base is black locus that has a copper patina, the lid has an oil finish, the “finial” has been wood burned and the “fan” has a copper patina.  My wife and I think that it just doesn’t quite all come together.  Some things we have discussed to help bring it together are:
1.      copper patina the lid to the wood burned area;
2.      put a wood burned ring (like the other ring) on the outside edge of the lid;
3.      darken the wood on the lid:
4.      other ideas or suggestions on how to better tie the lid and base together?

Appreciate you input
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Reply #1 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 6:27am
 
I would consider burning the fan to match the finial's color, and perhaps reducing the fan width by as much as 50%.  You could probably use Photoshop or Powerpoint to superimpose simple geometric shapes  onto the photo to try out the options.
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Reply #2 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 6:27am
 
First off, very nice work Steve.  The copper patina looks great on the bottom and I like the way you carried it through to the finial.  I think the part of the design that I dislike is the black ring on the lid.  The black ring would work with the yellow wood or with the patina but not with both at once.  If the ring was more subtle it might work a little better.  It seems to distract the eye away from the other beautiful components rather than enhance them.  Just my 2 cents.  I am not an art critic by any means so take it for what its worth.
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Reply #3 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 9:42am
 
To me my eye is drawn to the black ring and then the fan.  I would either make the black either shorter in height or do away with it.  If the fan were smaller too I think it might help. I agree with Mike to use Photoshop to try out how things would look.
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Reply #4 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 10:30am
 
Critique of the piece, don't take it personally. JMO

Too much going on for one piece.
The burned area on the lid should not be rounded, an angular profile might better mimic the rest of the pieces' features and maybe a bit smaller. A more defined line would give a cleaner look to a "slick" shaped like this.
The fan is about 25-30 percent too large to be in proportion with the piece.
The stark contrast of the black and yellow (dyed? or yellowheart?) takes away from the copper patina of the base, which is the more attractive feature.
You may need to decide which is the focal point you want to draw peoples attention to, the copper patina, the colored lid with pyrography or the fan. Once established you can concentrate on that aspect of the piece.

We've all had pieces get away from us before, the good thing is that yours looks like you can tweak it into your initial vision or at least come close.


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Reply #5 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 11:58am
 

I'm with Mike.

I think the finial/fan should be black as well.  The patina just does not ring or flash very well on top.
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Reply #6 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:38pm
 
Ok... also my personal thoughts...


The yellow clashes with the patina.
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Reply #7 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:22am
 
Thanks everyone for the helpful advise. I will now weed thru it and decide what direction I want to go. Once I get it finished I will post a picture of the finished product.
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Reply #8 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:35pm
 
Steve Doerr wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:22am:
Once I get it finished I will post a picture of the finished product.


Thanks Steve,
This type of discussion can be more helpful than many realize.
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Reply #9 - Apr 22nd, 2017 at 2:18pm
 
I agree and when I figure out how to post a picture and get back to turning I would love it to.
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Reply #10 - May 9th, 2017 at 8:18am
 
Steve I think the fan would be more beautiful if it's base was the same width as the finial with maybe burnt lines expanding upward in the same fan shape. Love the rest of the piece completely. Thumbs Up
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Reply #11 - May 9th, 2017 at 6:37pm
 
I just installed my new motor for my Nova 1624. Wow what a difference! Just curious what everyone uses for cutting speed, sanding speed, different woods, etc. Thanks in advance.
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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2017 at 10:08pm
 
Frank,
I would suggest that you start this topic as a new thread instead of tacking it on to this thread.

However, here is some info for you.
The speed of cutting depends on your skill level and the balance of wood you are turning as well as the size of the piece of wood.  For me, once I get the wood balanced, I usually cut at speeds of 1,200 RPM's or better.  Sanding is usually done at 300 RPM's or less.  This is just a guess since I do not have a meter that gives me the RPM's.
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