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Anthony maida
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May 27th, 2017 at 10:08pm
 
Hi Guy,s 
             I,am looking for a better tail stock live center for my
             recently purchased nova lathe.Any suggestions?
                                                         Thanks Anthony Undecided
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Re: tail stock live center
Reply #1 - May 27th, 2017 at 11:20pm
 
Robust and OneWay are excellent.

Nova live center is very good and has many interchangable fittings

For pens, 60 degree live centers are the default  ( 60 degree tip included in the Nova and Robust package.  60 degree pen turners tip available as add on for Oneway).

And there are others.....

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Re: tail stock live center
Reply #2 - May 28th, 2017 at 10:25am
 
I agree with Ken and would probably stick with one of the three he mentioned.
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Re: tail stock live center
Reply #3 - May 28th, 2017 at 2:39pm
 
I also agree with Ken and one thing I would like to add if you are doing pens and I have done thousands of them and a lot more with the vets of which I supply the pen and pencil kits.

I really like a spur drive

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Then you have this 4 piece drive

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Not as good as the Oneway or Powermatic or Nova but works great for the price

Then the 60 degree which they are talking about but I found it will split the wood sometimes if tightened to much

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Also if you need to restart a new center this will not do it and go back into the same hole but again with the Oneway or Powermatic or Nova or even the second one I linked to which on the end has a circle and the circle can be overlapped if a new center is needed
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Re: tail stock live center
Reply #4 - May 28th, 2017 at 7:48pm
 
Well now I'm confused.  The OP asked about tailstock live centers, but the last reply mentions spur drive centers.  I've always thought a spur drive went in the headstock.  Some people suggest a cup center in the headstock as a safe drive - in the event of a catch the cup center allows the wood to immediately stop spinning.  I've not noticed a point-and-cup drive center before, but it's very similar in concept to a cup drive center.

Regularly I use a point-and-cup live center in the tailstock, but I believe all modern live centers have one or more internal bearings so the end that engages the wood can spin freely while the morse taper end is stationary in the tailstock.  A drive center would not have any bearings - the morse taper is a friction fit in the spindle, which turns with the motor, so the drive center turns the wood.

Someone please correct or make more understandable as needed.
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Re: tail stock live center
Reply #5 - May 29th, 2017 at 12:37pm
 
Back to basics
Live centers turn or rotate and are used as revolving support in the tailstock.
Drive centers (dead centers) Don't rotate and need to be driven by the headstock spindle to turn the wood.
The advantage of the three live centers talked about is build quality and adaptation. Utilizing the threaded portion of the center, you can either purchase of make an endless amount of cups, cones or whatever is needed to support your work.

Don Stephan wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
Some people suggest a cup center in the headstock as a safe drive - in the event of a catch the cup center allows the wood to immediately stop spinning.

Some use this method for their own reasons, I would suggest a steb center. It achieves the same function without excess pressure needed from the tailstock.

Don Stephan wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
Someone please correct or make more understandable as needed.

There are many ways to drive and support turnings but your post is correct.
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Reply #6 - May 29th, 2017 at 3:09pm
 
Don

Sorry I did only show one live center but if you go to PSI they do have a live spur drive also.

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I hope that is better and does not confuse anyone.
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Re: tail stock live center
Reply #7 - May 29th, 2017 at 4:39pm
 
All three of the brands mentioned should do the job with many years of trouble free service.
I have the Nova (about $70) and have not had a problem in about 7 years.  It has three sets of bearings and the multiple tips are very useful.  (on sale if you have prime for $53  Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register)

Custom centers are easy to turn with tee nuts and the use of the "threaded insert".  You can also use the included anchor bolt to screw directly into the wood if you wish.
The threaded insert will also fit into your 2MT at the headstock as a friction drive.
You can also remove the cup and point and use it in the headstock as a safety center.

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Reply #8 - Jun 10th, 2017 at 7:41am
 
Thanks Guys  When I,am just starting to turn a bowl I bring the tailstock up for support,do I need a multi purpose center set or
just a good all purpose live center?Will the stub center work ok?
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Reply #9 - Jun 10th, 2017 at 1:05pm
 
I am with Mike Mills on the Nova live center. See my review here
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Reply #10 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 7:09am
 
Thanks Mike Peace
                            I have seen your video before and I have been leaning towards the nova center,I made my decision and
will go with the nova.I follow you on youtube all the time and
have learned so much.God Bless Anthony
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Re: tail stock live center
Reply #11 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 5:21pm
 
Anthony which Nova did you purchase???
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Reply #12 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 5:59pm
 
Steve  The nova live center for my nova 1624 lathe
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Re: tail stock live center
Reply #13 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 6:51am
 
Mike Peace wrote on Jun 10th, 2017 at 1:05pm:
I am with Mike Mills on the Nova live center. See my review here


I bought a Nova. The tapers were badly machined and do not fit correctly resulting in wobbles etc. Now in the scrap bin.

Got a Robust and am very happy. Great improvement in quality.
The ability to make all kinds of tips to fit the threads is a great plus.

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Re: tail stock live center
Reply #14 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 12:10pm
 
I have the Nova now for 5 years . Think it's great
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