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Ed Weber I need some advise on Stave construction
Jun 8th, 2017 at 1:25pm
 
I watched your Youtube slide show and it leaves me a lot of questions.

If you go to this site he has a lot of info but all of which I can not understand on the spreadsheet.

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He also shows how to make them using both a miter saw and table saw but how do you figure out how wide you want the staves if you want it say in a bowl or platter shape?

Thanks for the help.

O and also how to build the sled would be a great help also.
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Re: Ed Weber I need some advise on Stave construction
Reply #1 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 9:36am
 
Arlin, I'm busy today but I'll get back to you soon.
Let's get our terms straight right from the beginning. The page you linked to shows compound miter joints NOT staves. These are simply tall segments with a compound angle. Staves require the grain to run vertically.
There are a few compound angle calculators online that can help determine the correct angle for the segments regardless of grain orientation. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register
I use a segmenting software program to generate my cut list. I use Segmented Project Planner, I believe Segment Pro has the same/similar feature.
These types of programs are very helpful to "see" what a particular angle will look like before having to cut your material.
I am no fan of woodworking with spreadsheets.
I typically design in my head. If I want to make a vessel like you linked to, I decide what splay angle "looks" best to me and them use that information in some sort of angle calculator, that's it.
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Re: Ed Weber I need some advise on Stave construction
Reply #2 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 11:32am
 
Thank you Ed.

I will wait for more info.
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Re: Ed Weber I need some advise on Stave construction
Reply #3 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 6:26pm
 
Compound staves are a bit trickier since you need to cut the bevel and the angle simultaneously

A ripping blade, if you have one or at least a combination blade.
Tilt the blade away from your sled with either a left o r right tilt saw.
Don't tilt the blade toward the fence whether cutting freehand or with a sled. This can cause binding and kick-back.
In my setup, the blade is tilted away from the sled and the stave is held securely with no potential for binding.
Set the bevel on the saw to the angle you want.
The sled doesn't need to be anything fancy, a piece of plywood with a couple of toggle clamps and a stop-block.
Make a cut with just the sled to get your reference edge, then you can cut one side on all the pieces, move the stop and cut the remaining side.
If it wasn't clear in the slide photos, after I cut the first side of all the staves, I used one of the drops to act as the stop-block for aligning and cutting the second side..
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Re: Ed Weber I need some advise on Stave construction
Reply #4 - Jun 10th, 2017 at 12:37pm
 
I was thinking once I got them glued up I could put them in a donut chuck and turn and sand the bottoms flat.
Thank you for your help.

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Re: Ed Weber I need some advise on Stave construction
Reply #5 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 9:36am
 
A Do-nut chuck works really well for that. As long as it's secure, use whatever method you're comfortable with.
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