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Jul 29th, 2017 at 3:21am
 
I am in need of a decent digital camera...I cant spend a lot on this but do need one I can take good pictures of some of the stuff ..mainly flutes and bowls I make in my shop. What do you have guys use? ....Thanks in advance !!!
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Reply #1 - Jul 29th, 2017 at 6:55am
 
I'm picking up a Cannon Rebel 6i soon. Seems to be all I need and more.
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Reply #2 - Jul 29th, 2017 at 10:55am
 
What is your budget?
What are you photographing?
For what purpose?
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Check out Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register it is a online used camara store, they have great deals on great equipment.  I am looking at a Nikon DSLR in the next few months as well.
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Reply #4 - Jul 29th, 2017 at 1:23pm
 
canon rebel T5 is a good camera for around $350. the body will use both the EF and the EF-S lens. Amazon has it listed at $339 with 18-55mm lens. kits with accessories are around $450. i have one that is 2 years old and takes great pictures.
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Reply #5 - Jul 29th, 2017 at 5:36pm
 
Ed Weber wrote on Jul 29th, 2017 at 10:55am:
What is your budget?
What are you photographing?
For what purpose?



Ed I am wanting to photograph my flutes and bowls etc I make...flutes for my very simple website.On the budget $200 to $400.I would like to go as cheap as I can as I some other pokers in the fire I need to take care....Just sort of looking right now.
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Reply #6 - Jul 29th, 2017 at 5:59pm
 
Something like a Canon PowerShot SX410 IS.
Under $200, great for the price IMO
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Reply #7 - Jul 29th, 2017 at 6:02pm
 
Ed Weber wrote on Jul 29th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Canon PowerShot SX410 IS.


a good camera. i also have a pair of point and shoots that i keep in each vehicle, you never know when you will see a great shot while shopping or at work.
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Reply #8 - Jul 29th, 2017 at 7:38pm
 
I upgraded from an SX30 IS, great camera. I've taken some of my best shots to date with it. I think they're great all around cameras for those that don't want to have to think about taking a photo.
JMO, I'm a woodworker, not a photographer.
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Reply #9 - Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:24am
 
Ed Weber wrote on Jul 29th, 2017 at 7:38pm:
I upgraded from an SX30 IS, great camera. I've taken some of my best shots to date with it. I think they're great all around cameras for those that don't want to have to think about taking a photo.
JMO, I'm a woodworker, not a photographer.



Thats me Ed !!!  Sounds like the direction I maybe going to!
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Reply #10 - Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:47am
 
You can certainly do a lot more with that type of camera than just take product shots of your flutes.
That one and similar models have a long zoom, image stabilization lots of easy pre-set modes and shoot video as well.
For good quality photos, (better than your phone) without spending $400 and up, these are quite good IMO.
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Reply #11 - Aug 1st, 2017 at 12:27pm
 
I own a Nikon D5500 and my wife owns a $100 Nikon Coolpix and it takes darn good photos.

IMO its has more to do with the person behind the camera than the camera in front of the person when you want good images.
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Reply #12 - Aug 1st, 2017 at 12:35pm
 
Ron Sardo wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 12:27pm:
IMO its has more to do with the person behind the camera than the camera in front of the person when you want good images.


you are 100% correct. i get newsletters from several professional (ie: this is all they do for a living) photographers and they ALL say the same thing.
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Reply #13 - Aug 1st, 2017 at 1:14pm
 
Yep, you can always take a bad photo, no matter what equipment you have but a good photographer can take a good photo with just about anything.

Personally, I waited until I had (in my mind  Roll Eyes) a decent grip on taking photos before I decided to upgrade equipment.
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Reply #14 - Aug 3rd, 2017 at 7:11pm
 
Mike

You might also find very useful an image manipulation program to crop, adjust color levels and contrast, et cetera.  I use GIMP, which is free, but there is a learning curve.

I don't know if all cameras today are equally helpful when moving pictures to the computer.
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Reply #15 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:54am
 
with a light box and tripod even a cell phone can take ok pictures
even indirect lighting (unless you want highlights inn some way )
i happen to have a sony A65 and macro lens but coudl use any P&S with timer
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Reply #16 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 5:22pm
 
Anyone familiar with this one ??  Got a guy offering a trade on it.

Canon EOS Rebel T3i EOS 600D
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Reply #17 - Aug 16th, 2017 at 11:00pm
 
good camera. can not hardly go wrong with Canon or Nikon.
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Reply #19 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:20pm
 
To me using a Photo Tent which is sold pretty cheap they can do what any camera can not do by itself.

I have a photo tent with my daughters cell phone and the pictures are excellent.
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Reply #20 - Mar 7th, 2018 at 12:00am
 
Mike I prefer a  nikon dslr  - the ones with the big lenses that autofocus / and can swap out - although you can trump a lot of things with a lot of megapixels- nothing replaces a good large lense - as a testimony to that - when I sold my arrowheads ( I am also a Flintknapper - a person who makes stone tools ) on eBay - nothing accelerated my sales like after I bought a Nikon d40 - although only a 6 megapixel camera - the images literally jumped out at you - these older digital slr cameras complete with lens. d40, d50, d60,d70, d3000 can be had on Craigslist for less than 125.00 to 150.00 - you might consider those a lot of people have upgraded their dslr and now no longer need these - my wife bought me a Nikon d3400 that also does hd video - I love it but it is a lot of camera - and it’s complexity cost me some shots while I went to Alaska btw the older Nikon d40 still kicking and going strong
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Reply #21 - Mar 7th, 2018 at 10:07am
 
Mike, I use a Finepix S which is an inexpensive camera compared to Nikon or Canon.It has a 30 power zoom lens and 14 megapixels which is better than 35mm film. Great flash and loaded as far as automatic or manuel operation. Made by Fujifilm and has Fujinon lenses. Fujinon produces most of the lens glass for the other makes of camera. This is the second one I have had over the years and I have had Nicon,Pentax and others long before this. I would recommend it. Geo.
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Reply #22 - Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:22am
 
I will defer to the professional photographers on the forum BUT,
It's my understanding that the Megapixels are certainly a feature and a way to measure one aspect of an image, these days when comparing cameras the sensor is the most important.
Different cameras and ranges of cameras have different sized image sensors (the film)
The physically larger the sensor, the information that it can hold. Then you can move on to talking about megapixels.
If you look at the chart,
I have a 24MP camera with a ASP-C sensor, so while the pictures are great, they could/would be better with a full frame sensor. The more information  captured, the higher the level of detail that can be achieved. (also higher price)

Cell phones Have small lenses which don't let in enough light and very small sensors, 1/3" type typically. While they are good for what they are and can take decent photos (of a certain type) they will never compare with a standard camera. There are physical limitations.

I look at it in this order
Sensor size
Lens size
Mega Pixel size
Once the first two are met, the MP is usually irrelevant because if you get a camera with a good sensor and lens it will 9 times out of 10 have enough MP for the task.

This chart is just a guide, (gets outdated quickly) currently they are putting larger sensors, like the ASP-C in smaller cameras the used to have only 1/2" sensors. This makes the new entry and point & shoot cameras a great deal for the price. They will take much higher quality photos the their predecessors.
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Reply #23 - Mar 7th, 2018 at 6:34pm
 
I mentioned the Fujifilm cameras only because their price for the same features is very good. A larger sensor with the same number of pixels as a smaller sensor is preferred because each pixel, or little colored square, is easier to manufacture but generally increases the camera size, although some of the small point and shoot cameras now have 20 mega pixel sensors. I paid $137.00 for my Finepix S4500 about 6 years ago so they are probably higher now. Walmart and Target used to sell them. The advantage to having 14 million pixels is incase you ever want to print a 24 x 36 inch photo. Otherwise for our use, 5 megapixel is more than enough. When I am taking photos for the internet I lower the camera settings to just that. Geo.
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Reply #24 - Mar 7th, 2018 at 7:30pm
 
George Stratton wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 6:34pm:
I mentioned the Fujifilm cameras only because their price for the same features is very good.


Those are great cameras, don't get me wrong, I have a comparable model canon. These cameras are capable of quite a lot but have the very small sensor like that of today's cell phones.
You are limited to what you can do with the photos afterward due to the small sensor, zooming in or blowing up to any degree quickly becomes pixelated. The size of the sensor and the amount or number of Mega pixels are two separate things as i tried to explain for those who didn't know.
George Stratton wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 6:34pm:
although some of the small point and shoot cameras now have 20 mega pixel sensors.

There is no such thing.
They have 20 MP and a sensor, what size the sensor is is what matters.


Sensor size = film size
Mega Pixels = resolution
If you had 2 cameras with everything being equal except the sensor size, you'll get a better quality photo with the larger sensor camera. The image will be made up of the same number of pixels but the pixels will be larger and  cleaner (less digital noise) the digital noise is usually generated by trying to jam too much onto a small sensor.
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Reply #25 - Mar 8th, 2018 at 8:46am
 
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Reply #26 - Mar 8th, 2018 at 10:14am
 
Any camera you have that takes the photo you want is a "good" camera.

If you want to improve the quality of your photos you need to have a basic understanding of digital camera terminology and how the different aspects work together. If your photos are mainly turned items, it's also a good idea to do some homework on "product photography".

Without seeing a piece firsthand, taking a quality photograph is essential to how your work is perceived.
If you are selling a piece or even just discussing it in person, you are able to tell a story and point out certain areas or aspects of your work that warrant further description.
With a photo, you don't have the same luxury, the photo has to tell the entire story of the piece. The better the photo, the more it can tell about the subject.
This is why IMO the photo needs to be of the same quality as the work. If the photo is of lesser quality it can diminish the perceived quality of the work.
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Reply #27 - Apr 4th, 2018 at 10:43am
 
Yes, a better camera will help you take better photos, but as has been said above, the camera is only part of it. You, as the photographer, play a large part in the process. If you want to showcase your turned items, whether for sale or just for maximum oohs and ahs, you as the photographer must make good choices.

1) Make sure there is good, bright, even lighting. A lot of photos are ruined because it's too dim. If you're using Auto mode on the camera, it will try to compensate for the low light conditions and one of the ways the camera does that is by increasing the exposure time. That's not necessarily as big a concern if the camera is on a tripod and you're using a remote trigger. If you're hand-holding the camera, it's a recipe for blurry photos. When I was learning photography, one of the cardinal things I was taught was that LONGEST exposure time you can get a DECENT (note: not GOOD) photo is 1/60th of a second. Any longer than that and you introduce movement from just holding the camera. Even if you don't think you're moving the camera, you are. Auto mode is good for candid snapshots, but if you're taking a serious photo, you really need to learn how to work with the exposure time /shutter speed and the iris/f-stop setting.  As mentioned earlier, the shutter speed is how long the shutter stays open and is measured in fractions of a second. Generally, you want as small a fraction as you can get. Brighter light will help with that. The iris, or f-stop, is a ratio of the focal length over the diameter of the opening.  The relationship between the shutter speed and the f-stop is a complicated series of trade-offs which is a bit much for this conversation.

2) I would recommend using a few tools if you really want to get a great picture:
     A)A Tripod - this will help eliminate a great deal of any camera shake. To eliminate even more, use the timed mode on your camera. You should be able to get a 3 or 10 second countdown before the shutter fires, which helps to remove any shaking from pushing the button to take the photo.
     B) Use a light tent if you can get or make one. This is pretty much a frame you put your item to be photographed into. The frame holds up some translucent fabric which diffuses the light coming from the sides and top, helping to prevent stark shadows and hot spots from the lights being reflected at your camera. You can find them online and they're not that expensive.
     C) More light. The more light you can get shining on your piece of art, the better. External flash units slaved to or triggered by a flash on the camera is great. Keep in mind that light is a tricky thing. You want to keep the type and color temperature of the light as homogeneous as possible. Your camera can compensate for the different light sources if you know how to set it up. If you have taken photos where you mix incandescent light with fluorescent light, you have an idea of what I'm talking about. Incandescent makes the photo kind of orange-ish where fluorescent will make it kind of blue-greenish. Check your camera's manual.

3) Location Location Location. If you want to maximize the quality of the photo, be very picky about where you take the photo. Setting the bowl on the lathe and just snapping a picture of it is great, but all the stuff in the background will make the quality of the photo suffer. Put up a sheet or place your piece of art by itself up next to a wall. Minimize the distractiveness of the background in your photo. The light tent mentioned in 2B will REALLY help with that.

If you are going to take the plunge into dSLR's and get something that you can change lenses on, please be aware that, for the most part, the camera body is pretty much an accessory for the lens, not the other way around. Get the best glass you can manage. As the camera bodies change, you can upgrade them, but the lenses are the biggest investment. Do research. Learn about them. Get the best glass you can manage to get. 

Wow. This got much longer than I expected it to. Sorry if I kind of rambled on a bit...
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Reply #28 - Apr 4th, 2018 at 1:29pm
 
Ronald Plumley wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 10:43am:
Wow. This got much longer than I expected it to. Sorry if I kind of rambled on a bit...


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