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Color or staining wood
Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:48am
 
week's question again comes from Tom Coghill

QOTW: Color added to wood - Like it or hate it?  Why?

Personally, I never stain wood I much prefer the wood's natural beauty show on its own.
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #1 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:21am
 
++ on what Ron said.

Let the beauty of the wood show. Sometimes not even happy with the color change that comes from using varnish.
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #2 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:02pm
 
Personally I feel that artificially coloring wood is a hate crime.
If you're going to turn it into it an UN-natural color, it might as well be plastic.

I prefer to stick to natural oils and polyurethanes as much as possible.
For exterior projects I do use oils and stains to preserve.
For interior projects, I will use stain to "match" a particular color or upon request.
If I need a particular color for a project, I try to find a wood that naturally grows that way. This does have some limitations but that's the way I like to do it..
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Reply #3 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:26pm
 
No stains or paint. I keep it all natural. The grain is the best part.
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #4 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:44pm
 
Let the beauty of the wood show. Sometimes not even happy with the color change that comes from using varnish.
Me too
  i need  a  better finish
is shellac    blo   &  mineral spirits  better?
Blo, varnish, & mineral spirits. Better
The one with shellac    seems to dry so quick   that doesn't  level out as good.
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #5 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:09pm
 
I've used milk paint on the interior of vases and like the result. I accept that it's not everyone's taste though.
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #6 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03pm
 
I think a little color as accent in a decoration is good, especially on plain wood.  On highly figured wood I agree to let the figure be the accent.
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 4:27pm
 
For those who don't like color, even the yellowing that most oil finishes give, I recommend the water-based General Finishes Seal-A-Cell for the first 3-5 applications, sanding after each. This will keep the following finishes (oil or water based) to go on evenly and will not darken the turning with a yellow finish.

For those who like color, this material may still be a starting or foundation for your work.

Steve Doerr does some amazing coloring of turnings that really bring out and enhance the appearance of the natural grain. Many times these are done with black and red or black and green dyes. I think they are terrific.

I like color, when done well and when it adds to the art Thumbs Up. I will be the first to admit, I don't always hit the mark there ... at times going too far... Tongue

EDIT:  Ed is exactly right - I referenced the wrong finish material.  The correct (water based ) product is Woodturners Finish  ( photo updated too)
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #8 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 6:05pm
 
Tom Coghill wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 4:27pm:
For those who don't like color, even the yellowing that most oil finishes give, I recommend the water-based General Finishes Seal-A-Cell for the first 3-5 applications, sanding after each.


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There are water-based polyurethanes that are available and are crystal clear but you also have to like water-based finishes.
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #9 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 7:52am
 
I've had good success with General Finishes Woodturners Finish (which is water based) in keeping light colored turnings from turning amber or darkening.  It takes a lot of coats.  One trick that seems to work for me is to put the first one or two coats on and let it dry thoroughly.  After that maybe sand back to get rid of the fuzzies, and then start building coats.
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #10 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm
 
I much prefer the look of uncolored wood, I like to be able to see the grain. If I must color wood, I will only go as far as a see through stain that doesn't cover the grain.
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Re: Color or staining wood
Reply #11 - Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:13pm
 
Well Tom, I guess you and I are the only ones that like to use color once in awhile.
As far as how oil will add a yellow hue to the wood, I like the way it gives the wood warmth. I guess part of that is what I grew up with and what I am accustomed to.

As far as color goes, as Tom said I have used it on some of the highly figured woods--fiddleback, curly and quilted maples. I like the way the black fills in the open grained area and then the accent color helps show off the grain. When I show them at shows I point out to people the chatoyance that is obtained thru the dying process. I have pretty good luck with selling them as well.

I guess I'm in the group that likes an oil finish on wood and in the group that doesn't mind adding a little color to the wood to enhance it's beauty. I know it is a pretty small group (looks like about 2 or 3 of us) but it's a thankless job and somebody's got to do it Cheesy Grin Wink
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