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Do I need breathing protection?
Sep 14th, 2017 at 10:37pm
 
I'm just starting turning and I've been wondering about breathing protection-- when is it necessary? It seems to me that some turners use dust masks, some have respirators, and most don't have anything at all. I'm a beginner, so I won't be using any crazy chemicals right away, but I'll probably be doing a lot of sanding to fix my screwups. Could someone familiar with the different types of masks give me some pointers? Thanks!
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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #1 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 1:36am
 
I'm no pro, and I'm sure others will weigh in, but to me the more breathing protection you have, the better. Some people have fancy dust collection systems and don't need to wear as much protection. My shop is in a tiny unventilated shed, so I try to have my respirator on pretty much any time I'm turning, and certainly whenever I'm sanding. Breathing lots of wood dust, especially over time, is no bueno.
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Reply #2 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 2:17am
 
You have a finite number of lungs, right?

That should be all the answer you need.

I wear one (a respirated face mask) whenever I'm sanding, combined with a dust extractor. Not when I'm turning green wood, and sometimes when I'm turning relatively dusty dry woods.
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Reply #3 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:45am
 
A top of the line respirator is cheaper than a single visit to the hospital. No matter how good your dust collector is you still need lung protection from a good respirator.

Also, those paper dust masks are worthless. They only make you think you are safe while not really protecting you.
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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #4 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:33am
 
Short answer is yes, wear dust protection.

There is a wide range available in this arena, price and protection don't always go hand in hand.
Disposable paper
Washable cloth
Respirator (half)
Respirator (full)
Respirator (full, powered)

IMO, the best bang for the buck for dust protection (today)  is the Elipse P100 Dust Mask

Very inexpensive and rated highly effective
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These are available from many places, this is just one.

You need to choose your own eye/face protection as you see fit.
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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #5 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 11:20am
 
If you are turning outside in a 20 mph wind, you may be able to do without a dust mask and filter system, as long as the work is down wind from you. A good dust collection system and sanding hoods can get most of the dust, but seldom all of it. Just sweeping up the shop stirs up all sorts of dust. Box fans with filters do a very minimal job, and work better if they blow, rather than try to (edited out) the dust away from you, and it has to blow through the shop and out the door. The fine dust from sanding can float in the air for days, and that is the type you do not want in your lungs because it doesn't come out again. You really do need some dust protection for your lungs...

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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #6 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 11:51am
 
Ron Sardo wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:45am:
A top of the line respirator is cheaper than a single visit to the hospital. No matter how good your dust collector is you still need lung protection from a good respirator.

Also, those paper dust masks are worthless. They only make you think you are safe while not really protecting you.


+1 on what Rod said and I whole heartily agree.

It also depends on which type if you have any facial hair also.

If you wish let me know and I will send you some links to those I supply to the disabled vets.
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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #7 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:48pm
 
My two cents the minimum protection would be a P95 or P100 half respirator - covers nose and mouth.  But sometimes sanding dust bothers my eyes, in which case I wear my impact resistant faceshield over my half respirator (an alternative would be a P95 or P100 full faceshield).  The best protection (but expensive), and the only option if you have even a light beard, is a powered full facepiece respirator.  If you work in the basement of a house, you might also need one or two ceiling hung air cleaners.

A local woodturning group can be an ideal place to take this question, as you will be able to see examples of the different options.
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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #8 - Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:20am
 
Yes!
I am a Doc so I see folks with many varieties of allergy and lung problems.
Why precipitate a problem?
Best way one for least money for me has been the Ellipse, fits easily under face shield and is a bargain on Amazon.
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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #9 - Sep 16th, 2017 at 11:11am
 
Ron Sardo wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:45am:
Also, those paper dust masks are worthless. They only make you think you are safe while not really protecting you.


If these are specifically designed to keep the dust out, why aren't they effective?
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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #10 - Sep 16th, 2017 at 11:48am
 
Because they are poorly made.

For a respirator to work effectively they need to seal around your face properly, paper masks leak on the sides.

When you buy a respirator, like the ones Ed and I linked to, you must buy the correct size for them to seal around your face.

A easy way to test a half face mask while its on and the straps properly snug.
1) place your palm on the exhaust and if no air leaks out proceed to the next test.
2) with the filters off place your palms over the intake if you can breath in the mask is safe.
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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #11 - Sep 16th, 2017 at 3:04pm
 
Ron Sardo wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 11:48am:
For a respirator to work effectively they need to seal around your face properly, paper masks leak on the sides.


Air will follow the path of least resistance.
When you inhale, air will more easily pass around the side of the unit than it will going through the filter.
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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #12 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 1:59pm
 
Question not asked is "Do you have facial hair"? If so, then you should have an over the head pressurized system.

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Re: Do I need breathing protection?
Reply #13 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:03pm
 
Yes Matthew, some sort of respirator is advisable. There is all kinds to pick from, personally, I think the ones that seal tight against your face are the best type.
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