Woodturner's Resource
Woodturner's Resource  
  • Featured Artist    • Websites   Support Wr
Tutorials, Projects & Tips   • Event Calendar   • Tool and Book Store
  Home Page Forum HelpSearch Map TPT Resources LoginRegister
 
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print
Vacuum Chuck (Read 390 times)
 
Doug Calvert
WR Champion
*****
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 67

Kent, Wa, Washington, USA
Kent, Wa
Washington
USA

Gender: male
Vacuum Chuck
Nov 15th, 2018 at 4:58pm
 
I suppose it's a little late for me to be asking this question, but I just purchased the Frugal Plug-N-Turn Vacuum system. It has not arrived yet but I'm curious, does anyone have any experience with it either negative or positive?
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Paul Grenier
WR Noob
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 12


Powermatic 3520B
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #1 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 5:16pm
 
I bought his "Plug and Play" version and have been very happy with it.  Plenty of vacuum being pulled and quieter than I thought it would be.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Len Layman
WR Addict
*****
Offline


What have I got into??

Posts: 3,080

Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
Grand Cayman
Cayman Islands

Gender: male

PM 3520b
Jet 1220
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #2 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 8:54pm
 
Bought one three years ago.  It was one of the best tool purchases I have made since I started turning.
Back to top
  

Len

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."   MLK
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Dave Richards
Junior Member
*
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 28

Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #3 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 10:19pm
 
love mine, don't think I would go back to the old way. If it dies I'll order another
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Doug Calvert
WR Champion
*****
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 67

Kent, Wa, Washington, USA
Kent, Wa
Washington
USA

Gender: male
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #4 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:06am
 
Great news.  Thank you.  I'm looking forward to trying it out.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Chris Neilan
WR Addict
*****
Offline


OUCH!

Posts: 846

Waterford, Connecticut, USA
Waterford
Connecticut
USA

Gender: male

Powermatic 3520
Delta 46-460
Shopsmith 10 ER
Shopsmith Mark V
Shopsmith Mark 7 Powerpro
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #5 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:54pm
 
What is it?  Cheesy
Back to top
  

Delta 46-460: awesome
Powermatic 3520: more awesome!
Shopsmith Mark 7: Wonderful! (But I don't use it as a lathe yet)
Shopsmith Mark V
Shopsmith 10ER
 
IP Logged
 
John Grace
WR Addict
*****
Offline


Everyone needs a good
wingman...

Posts: 759

Bel Air, Maryland, USA
Bel Air
Maryland
USA

Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #6 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:58am
 
In the for what it's worth category...when I decided to change to a vacuum chuck system several years ago, I read countless articles and opinions about the various systems available.  I too landed on the Frugal system but still wasn't sure due to the costs and not knowing much about the pump itself.  My brother, a machinist by trade, actually called and talked to one of the folks at Frugal about their system and how they arrived at it.  My brother assured me that I would have no problems with the system and he's been right going on three years now.  Yes, it's a bit pricey but it's easy to set-up, quieter than expected, and has run flawlessly since.  I chose to use one of the connectors from JT Turning while using the small and medium size chucks offered from Oneway.  A bit of an expensive Frankenstein approach to be sure...but easily one of the best decisions to improve my over-all turning ability since I started.  Good luck...
Back to top
  

“If history were taught in the form of stories, it would never be forgotten.”  Kipling
 
IP Logged
 
Ron Page
Junior Member
*
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 40

Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #7 - Dec 6th, 2018 at 9:01am
 
I just followed the good hints above, went to the Frugal website, watched 2-3 videos, and now am sold on this product.  The vacuum pump they use is what sealed the decision.  I was always hesitant to get into vacuum chucks because I didn't want to add to the noise in the shop and didn't want to deal with subpar pumps.  This should take care of both issues.
Thanks to all who commented in this thread.  Your good reports really helped. Without those I still would have thought it was too much $$ to invest at my hobby/pastime level. Now, the ball is in Santa's court...

ron
Back to top
« Last Edit: Dec 6th, 2018 at 9:03am by Ron Page »  
 
IP Logged
 
Ron Page
Junior Member
*
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 40

Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #8 - Dec 8th, 2018 at 9:37pm
 
And Santa came through.  Should be here in a couple of days.

Thanks to all replies above and the OP for the thread, as this thread is what resulted in my order.

ron
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Tom Coghill
WR Addict
*****
Offline


Turning, when I am done
with my chores.

Posts: 1,103

Anchorage, Alaska, USA
Anchorage
Alaska
USA

Gender: male

Oneway 2436, 3 HP 220V
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #9 - Dec 10th, 2018 at 7:23pm
 
Vacuum chucking is WONDERFUL but not fool proof.  Be sure you THINK about what you are doing. 

Think about it when your wood is wet ...  (install filters before the vacuum pump)

Think about it when your wood is being finished ..  (never apply the first finish to your turning when it is being held by the vacuum chuck)

Think about it and WATCH your vacuum gauge when first putting wood on your lathe ... (red oak IS DIFFERENT than white oak, as an example)

I am saying that I LOVE my vacuum chuck system!! however I have made some errors when I did not THINK about it..

PS - and remember to stop the lathe before shutting off the vacuum system... yep, I have made that mistake too! Shocked
Back to top
« Last Edit: Dec 10th, 2018 at 7:24pm by Tom Coghill »  
 
IP Logged
 
Ralph Fahringer
WR Addict
*****
Offline


I'm the "Burly" Man!!

Posts: 927

Ellsworth, Maine, USA
Ellsworth
Maine
USA

Gender: male

PM3520b
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #10 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 10:02am
 
I'm finding that the chuck leaves a tiny mark on the wood and discovered that tho it has rubber tubes on the end, it ALSO has a hard metal ring between them and THAT is what is marking the wood!!!


I'm going to find a way to glue a piece of something non marring onto the metal ring.

Other than that, I really like having it. Smiley
Back to top
  

Originality is the art of concealing your source.
 
IP Logged
 
Tom Coghill
WR Addict
*****
Offline


Turning, when I am done
with my chores.

Posts: 1,103

Anchorage, Alaska, USA
Anchorage
Alaska
USA

Gender: male

Oneway 2436, 3 HP 220V
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #11 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 6:31pm
 
Ralph - I very RARELY use all the vacuum that I have from my vacuum pump.  Example, when I am applying finishes, I used only about 5 inches Hg of vacuum.  When removing the foot form a turning, I will ramp that up to about 10 to 15.

I have never gone above 15 in of Hg of vacuum.  I use the tailstock whenever possible.

I apply a sticky foam back to my metal chucks.  I included a photo of a large flat home made chuck with a yellow foam surface.

Here is a useful graph that I use to get an idea of the amount of total pressure I am applying to a turning (see below)
Back to top
« Last Edit: Dec 11th, 2018 at 6:37pm by Tom Coghill »  
 
IP Logged
 
Clark Pittman
WR Noob
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 16

Portland, Tennessee, USA
Portland
Tennessee
USA

Gender: male

Both Nova Comet 2 and Laguna Revo 1836
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #12 - Yesterday at 7:51am
 
Thanks for the chart, Tom, looks like a handy reference.

After reading this thread and some further research I have also sprung for the Plug 'n' Turn vacuum system from Bob Leonard at Frugal. Merry Christmas from myself.

My shop is not heated and it beginning to get pretty cold out there for any "playing" right now, but hopefully there will still be a few days of reasonable weather here in north central Tennessee to allow me to try out the new chucking system.


Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Ed Weber
WR Administrator
WR Patron
*****
Offline



Posts: 5,697

Wilton, California, USA
Wilton
California
USA

Gender: male

JET 1642
Grizzly G0584
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #13 - Yesterday at 10:23am
 
John Grace wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:58am:
I chose to use one of the connectors from JT Turning while using the small and medium size chucks offered from Oneway.


To each his own and what can and can't work for your lathe.

I went with a system from Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register many years ago, it just works.

Prices have gone up over the years and the Frugal seems like a good deal for some.
For me, I probably still wouldn't buy a Frugal system. One, because I don't like the hose running through the head-stock. I prefer the outboard adapter. (it works on my lathe) And two, because it looks like a cobbled together collection of parts. This is easily something I could do myself, only neater. Something without tie-wraps and electrical tape holding essential parts to the refurbished pump.  Undecided Paying for something that looks like that is just off putting, whether it has anything to do with performance of not.
If I had to do it again, I would probably buy the Vacuum adapter from JT and search out the remaining parts individually, pump, gauge, etc. I would probably end up somewhere between the price of the two systems. It would end up being my "frugal" system or  Frankenstein but I would be happy with it. JMO
Hope you are happy with yours.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Glenn Roberts
Senior Member
****
Offline


WR Rocks!

Posts: 302

Walworth, NY, New York, USA
Walworth, NY
New York
USA

Gender: male
Re: Vacuum Chuck
Reply #14 - Yesterday at 5:50pm
 
Hey Clark, I think I have a few 7000 heat rods you could fabricate an infrared heater with!
Back to top
  

The older I get, the better I was........
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print