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Lee Watermann
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Yorkshire Grit substitute
Nov 27th, 2018 at 12:53pm
 
All. Just wondering if there is anything else that is gritty like Yorkshire Grit that is used.
I'm not having good results with Walnut Log. Ordered early Nov. but no product and can't get a response from him. Email and phone call.
Maybe will order from the UK. I like the grit with resin.
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Re: Yorkshire Grit substitute
Reply #1 - Nov 27th, 2018 at 1:32pm
 
I make my own and have had fair results with it on small items
3.75 oz. Food grade Diatomaceous earth
3.75 oz. bees wax
1 pint Mineral oil.
Heat oil in double boiler , blend in bees wax until melted then add diatomaceous earth and whip in with whisk until all lumps are in solution.
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Re: Yorkshire Grit substitute
Reply #2 - Nov 27th, 2018 at 2:24pm
 
Rottenstone should also work as the grit in your rub. Thumbs Up
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Reply #3 - Nov 27th, 2018 at 4:37pm
 
Steve nix wrote on Nov 27th, 2018 at 1:32pm:
I make my own and have had fair results with it on small items
3.75 oz. Food grease Diatomaceous
3.75 oz. bees wax
1 pint Mineral oil.
Heat oil in double boiler , blend in bees wax until melted then add diatomaceous earth and whip in with whisk until all lumps are in solution.


Yes, Mike Peace made his own as well.

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Re: Yorkshire Grit substitute
Reply #4 - Nov 27th, 2018 at 8:25pm
 
Lee,
I am having the same problem that you are with the Walnut Log.Placed on order online 11/11 and still have not received it, three emails and one phone call to him with no response!! 

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Reply #5 - Nov 28th, 2018 at 2:51am
 
I am not sure if there is a supplier available over your side of the world, however you will find that this product is very similar to the Yorkshire Grit
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Re: Yorkshire Grit substitute
Reply #6 - Nov 28th, 2018 at 11:30am
 
[quote author=436C6F6F564E607D7D667A090 link=1543341185/5#5 date=1543391499]I am not sure if there is a supplier available over your side of the world, however you will find that this product is very similar to the Yorkshire Grit
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In addition to Yorkshire Grit and Triple-EEE Ultrashine, there is a US-made product called Dr. Kirk's Triple EEE that is sold by Craft Supplies.
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Reply #7 - Nov 28th, 2018 at 1:59pm
 
Heres another couple.

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Reply #8 - Nov 28th, 2018 at 4:15pm
 
Thanks all on this. I will look into all of them.
I wrote Yorkshire Grit with my complaint and anyone else having problems should also. This might push them into having other dealers.
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Reply #9 - Nov 28th, 2018 at 7:26pm
 
I've also had the same problems with the Walnut Log on more than one occasion. I've complained to both the Yorkshire Grit folks as well as the guy who produces Hampshire Sheen products and informed them of these issues and suggested they consider adding an additional U.S. distributor. Maybe if more people complain something may happen.
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Reply #10 - Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:36am
 
Here is a link to a video by Daniel Vilarino back in '17; he also had one back in 2015.
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You can buy pumice and rottenstone from a lot of woodworking stores or from Amazon.
I still have quite a bit left over from back in the 80's when I was more energetic.
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Reply #11 - Nov 29th, 2018 at 12:51pm
 
Everyone should keep in mind that wax on wood may cause adhesion problems with products one might want to apply next.
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Re: Yorkshire Grit substitute
Reply #12 - Nov 29th, 2018 at 2:01pm
 
I've been doing some research into these products and this is what I've come up with.
These is MY conclusions.
For years, people have been experimenting with better ways to sand wood. Starting with basic dry sandpaper, then serated paper, then wet sanding (various liquids) then wax sanding and every combination possible of all of these methods.
Today we have readily available products which consist of,
Mineral oil (lubricant)
Abrasive (sanding particles)
Wax (suspends sanding particles)
When these products are used, the wax suspends the abrasive particles evenly throughout the compound. The oil reduces friction and viscosity, making it easier to sand with less heat build up. The abrasives sand the surface smooth.

While working these products on the wood, the sanding dust that usually filled the air now creates a sort of slurry that gets embedded into all the small surface pores giving a smooth to the touch surface.

When you're done and the surface is wiped clean what's left is a mineral oil treatment (not a finish) with a extremely fine wax film (almost non existent)

The molecules of the mineral oil penetrate the wood and soak in, the wax and abrasive particles do not and are typically wiped off the surface. Most of the product used is now on the application and/or buffing rag.

Don Stephan wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Everyone should keep in mind that wax on wood may cause adhesion problems with products one might want to apply next.

100% agree

Since most all topcoats have some type of solvent in them, any minute amount of wax remaining is usually softened and either wiped away during top coat application, eliminating the problem. Or remains trapped in the top coat weakening the bond, this can lead to failure in the future.

For me, the "benefits" that some perceive from these types of products are not worth the potential consequences of a failed finish.

Just my two cents

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Reply #13 - Dec 1st, 2018 at 5:58am
 
Id like to know why folks are using this stuff and are they using it on bare wood or on applied sanding sealer/lacquer?

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Re: Yorkshire Grit substitute
Reply #14 - Dec 1st, 2018 at 9:09am
 
I have been using Yorshire Grit a bit now and like it. BUT, i dont like it as much on bare wood. It works better when used after a sanding sealer. That helps reduce the amount of mineral oil that soasks into the wood. Next point is that this product (and I only assume other sanding waxes) make a great base for friction polishes (which are waxed based).  If applying other finishes such as Waterlox or tung oil or lacquer, I would definately wipe the surface with a solvent like acetone...
I have a test piece which I shared earlier with a lacquer finish which so far is holding up just fine.
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