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Al Wasser
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Jul 30th, 2020 at 12:52pm
 
The name seems like an oxymoron but I have seen turners use this as a finish.  It seems to be available at several sources in the US.  Just curious if anyone has used this stuff and have any thoughts about it.   Thankx!
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Re: Hard Wax Oil
Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2020 at 6:31pm
 
Hard oil, hard wax oil and a dozen other names.
A blend of natural waxes and penetrating oils.
Most people like it because it's low VOC, typically easy to apply and you can repair or patch a damaged area without having to refinish the entire project. The oil and wax fills the pores to form a smooth surface, not a film on top.
Typically, the wax usually gets harder over time and won't yellow.

As far as application, every manufacturer has a different proffered method. Some are single coat and others multiple, each may also have an addition product, usually refereed to as maintenance oil.

I haven't used it on turnings, only small pieces of furniture

I know some turners like Odies oil but I haven't tried it.
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Reply #2 - Jul 30th, 2020 at 6:56pm
 
Likely a relatively soft "coating" on the wood compared to curing finishes, not likely to stand up well to repeated washings on food bowls.
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Reply #3 - Jul 30th, 2020 at 9:22pm
 
Don, I don't know about washing but they are getting better at the durability. Many floor manufacturers and installers are using hard oils.
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Re: Hard Wax Oil
Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 10:55am
 
Are we talking about carnuba wax? That is the hardest wax I know of. Cheap version is the Kiwi neutral shoe polish. Not sure about the 'turtle wax' for cars....

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Re: Hard Wax Oil
Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 11:09am
 
Carnuba is the hardest natural wax but the man made noncrystalline waxes are harder.
Due to the current reporting requirements, the formulas that use natural waxes are not required to list the ingredients deemed to be safe, like wax, Only hazardous materials  need to be listed.There is no way to know what waxes they are using unless the want to tell you.
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Re: Hard Wax Oil
Reply #6 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 4:29pm
 
I bought some doctor's woodshop  microcrystal wax bowl finish.   Already    have some of his  regular    Walnutoil/ carnauba wax finish. He says he likes the  micro   because  makes  more shine..
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Reply #7 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 8:11pm
 
I would tend to agree

In my experience, the micro-crystalline waxes can be buffed to a much higher sheen than carnuba.
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