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Last thing I turned
Oct 17th, 2020 at 11:03am
 
I warned you guys.
If you didn't get a little more active around here I would subject you to my shop projects.
This is what you get.
I needed to (finally got around to) make a handle for one of my chisels. This 1 1/4" is to be the little brother, so to speak, of the 2" one I refreshed and rehandled a while back.
This one took a lot less time judging and test fitting the taper.
So surprise, surprise, they match and look like they belong in the same tool tray
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Reply #1 - Oct 17th, 2020 at 12:35pm
 
What do you use for the metal ring?
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Reply #2 - Oct 17th, 2020 at 1:25pm
 
I use a thick wall Brass tubing.
I bought a 3' section a few years ago from McMaster Carr.
I've been using it for hoops and ferrules. I cut it with a tubing cutter. When I got it, it cost about $1 an inch. Ferrules are usually 3/4" and hoops are about 3/8" (I don't measure) I just eyeball it. So, that being said, it lasts a long time.
I've done many many tools with it, chisels and turning tools.
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Reply #3 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 9:46am
 
Brass looks great but not absolutely necessary. A piece of electrical conduit,cheap, will cut easily with that same tubing cutter shown and plenty strong enough.
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Reply #4 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 11:33am
 
Brass is easy to work with and IMO looks nice.
There are many many things I could have used but these are my tools and I prefer brass or stainless.
Brass heats and expands more easily than steel (iron) which makes it easier to set hoops when not epoxying them.
As I mentioned cost is minimal, I used about 35-40 cents worth of brass on my chisel. Also there is a greater variety of sizes and wall thickness to be found with brass or other metal tubing than there is with standard conduit.
Not all ferrules and hoops are, or can be, the same diameter due to their usage.
That's just the way I do it, YMMV
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Reply #5 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 4:44pm
 
Where did you get the hormigo Ed ? And did you have to glue up thinner stock to make the handles ?
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Reply #6 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 5:12pm
 
I had been getting it at Woodcraft but it seemed to be hit or miss.
I think the last I bought was from West Penn Hardwoods, also no guarantee they'll have it.
It definitely comes in waves, when one place has it, they all seem to have it and vise-versa.

I was able to get 2"x2"x 18" or 24", so no gluing. Most of the time you can only find 1 1/2" x 1 1/2", which is  a bit too small for my tastes.

If I find some, I'll try to remember to post it.
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Reply #7 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 5:45pm
 
For ferrules, copper sweat solder couplings have worked for me, and easy to find.  I turned a short dowel that a coupling is a snug fit on, then hacksaw the coupling to length while on the dowel.  Slide it off and file the sawn end smooth and nip off the burrs.
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Reply #8 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 6:34pm
 
Ed Weber wrote on Oct 18th, 2020 at 5:12pm:
If I find some, I'll try to remember to post it.



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Reply #9 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 6:36pm
 
Don Stephan wrote on Oct 18th, 2020 at 5:45pm:
For ferrules, copper sweat solder couplings have worked for me, and easy to find.


That is also what I use.
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Reply #10 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 7:55pm
 
Ed Weber wrote on Oct 18th, 2020 at 11:33am:
Brass is easy to work with and IMO looks nice.
There are many many things I could have used but these are my tools and I prefer brass or stainless.
Brass heats and expands more easily than steel (iron) which makes it easier to set hoops when not epoxying them.
As I mentioned cost is minimal, I used about 35-40 cents worth of brass on my chisel. Also there is a greater variety of sizes and wall thickness to be found with brass or other metal tubing than there is with standard conduit.
Not all ferrules and hoops are, or can be, the same diameter due to their usage.
That's just the way I do it, YMMV


Ed, you just take pride in your work.  Thumbs Up
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Reply #11 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 7:57pm
 
Thanks Robert

To be clear, here's the breakdown as I understand it.
Common Name(s): Macacauba, Macawood, Hormigo, Orange Agate and Ganadillo

(family) Fabaceae
Scientific Name: Platymiscium spp.

P. dimorphandrum, = Hormigo ( Rojo and Negro)
P. pinnatum, = Macacauba
P. Yucatanum, =  Granadillo - Coyote
Also, P. trinitatis, and P. ulei which I don't have a common name for.
There are subtle differences between the sub species but generally they can be interchanged without issue.
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Reply #12 - Oct 19th, 2020 at 10:42am
 
I have one ferule that I made out of copper. Not sure if it was because it was thinner than the brass I use, but it seems to be very flexible and would deform when pounding it onto the handle. I prefer the brass. Might just be me, but I want heavy duty...

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Reply #13 - Oct 19th, 2020 at 11:13am
 
Copper is much softer which is another reason I prefer brass.
Add some zinc for a little strength and rigidity to the copper and you get brass.
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