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Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 9:25am

I've been asked to make a muddler that peaks at the top. see attached image for an example.

I can turn the muddler.

I'm just not sure how to do cut the peak so that the sides match. I tried with my bandsaw but the sides are no where near equal. The ridge is not centered. The sides have different angles. It's a mess. I could dig out my table saw but I'm not sure the results would be any better.

Any suggestions.

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Jenn

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Ed Weber WR Administrator WR Patron Offline Posts: 8,940 Wilton California USA Gender: JET 1642 Grizzly G0584	Re: How to question Reply #1 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 9:47am Without knowing what tools you have I'll just be guessing. A disc sander would be a good way to accomplish this as you can "sneak up' on each side to keep them even. Personally I would make a sled or small fixture for the miter gauge on my bandsaw. Were you cutting free-hand?
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Jennifer Hasan Active Member Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 232 Beacon, ny New York USA	Re: How to question Reply #2 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 10:02am Thanks Ed, I drew lines and then cut freehand. I also tried cutting the square banks before I turned it. My thinking was that it might be easier to cut something with straight sides on a bandsaw. I have limited tools, unfortunately. I can make a sled and try that. Would the table saw be more accurate? Jenn
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Re: How to question
Reply #3 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 10:13am

Jennifer Hasan wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 10:02am:

I can make a sled and try that. Would the table saw be more accurate?

As accurate as your marks and sled.

If I had to make just one I would do as Ed suggested and use a disk sander mounted on my lathe (or a floor model belt sander)

If I had to make more than a few of these on a on going basis I would do as you and use a sled or even a table saw miter.

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Reply #4 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 10:17am

Jennifer Hasan wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 10:02am:

I can make a sled and try that. Would the table saw be more accurate?

Not necessarily, the bandsaw, IMO is the proper tool for this.
The sled doesn't need to be anything fancy, just as long as it can support or hold the muddler to make two equal cuts. A simple board with a channel or groove to hold the muddler steady, then use a miter gauge for the angle.

That's just a suggestion, there are many ways to do it.

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Tom Coghill WR Addict Offline Turning, when I am done with my chores. Posts: 1,128 The Villages Florida USA Gender: Oneway 2436, 3 HP 220V, now with Stainless Ways	Re: How to question Reply #5 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 10:28am Can I ask why the peaked top? These are usually used to crush materials so they are made to be comfortable in the hand and to spread out the load. Hence my question about the different shape at the top...
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Jennifer Hasan Active Member Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 232 Beacon, ny New York USA	Re: How to question Reply #6 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 11:37am Tom, You place your thumb on it for added pressure.
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Al Wasser WR Addict Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 626 Pueblo West, CO Colorado USA Gender: Robust American Beauty	Re: How to question Reply #7 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 1:25pm Your thumb will fit over a flat better and be more comfortable. You seem to be worrying over a problem that does not need to be.
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Ron Sardo WR Administrator WR Patron Offline Chief cook and bottle washer Posts: 9,675 Drums Pennsylvania USA PM 3520	Re: How to question Reply #8 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 1:34pm I had to think about this one. I don't think the peaks would enable a thumb to add more pressure, but I think it might be a tad more comfortable.
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Re: How to question
Reply #9 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 2:09pm

Jennifer Hasan wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 11:37am:

Tom,

You place your thumb on it for added pressure.

Aha. If the peak is at the thumb joint it transfers good force and restrains the muddler. I used the edge of the cover on Machinerys Handbook to test the concept.

Do not want a really sharp edge because it causes pain.

I would put a pencil line around the muddler about where the flat daylights out so both flats will look balanced and head to the disc sander using the miter gage.

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Jennifer Hasan Active Member Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 232 Beacon, ny New York USA	Re: How to question Reply #10 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 3:27pm I wouldn't design a muddler like this but my client likes it, so I do it to make her happy. Thanks for your input gentlemen. Jenn
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Don Stephan WR Addict Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 2,659 Cincinnati, Ohio Ohio USA Gender:	Re: How to question Reply #11 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 7:18pm If you can make good pencil guidelines, you could hold the wood in a padded vise and shape the top with a rasp or two, or even coarse sandpaper against a block of wood, then use finer grits of sandpaper against that block of wood. A bit more time consuming, but beats yelling at the moon?
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Edgar Sims Full Member Offline WR Rocks! Posts: 96 peoria Arizona USA Gender: Jet 1642	Re: How to question Reply #12 - Aug 24^th, 2016 at 12:24am Similar to what Don suggested. If you have a good sharp hand plane and a bench vise. You can clamp the plane upside down in the vise and draw the end across is as long as you cut toward the point it won’t chip out and you can control it pretty well. The disc sander suggestion sounds like the best.
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