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Ed Weber
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Jun 9th, 2022 at 3:08pm
 
Are there any leather worker here that could point me toward some better quality hardware like rivets for example?

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Reply #2 - Jun 9th, 2022 at 4:57pm
 
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Reply #3 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 11:29am
 
Tandy Leather has stores all over the place. I never got into the tooling part of it, but sewed custom hacky sacks and juggle balls for a number of years. There is generally a hardened form, and die, and hammer. You might check to see if there are any saddle shops in your area. If there are any local craft shows, some of the belt makers may be able to help...

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Reply #4 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 1:03pm
 
Thanks Reed
What I'm specifically looking for is a decent rivet.
The rivets in the inexpensive assortment packs that are everywhere are very thin and therefore don't hold up. The double cap rivets can be bent or deformed by my hand pressure alone.
They work for aesthetics but don't seem to hold up to actual wear or use.
Currently I'm still practicing and only using them for utility things around the shop (nothing pretty, believe me) to cover blades and edges. Just looking for something a bit more durable.
Example here is just some edge covers for a few of my larger chisels (I don't care for the retail versions)
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Re: Leather Work
Reply #5 - Jun 11th, 2022 at 12:27pm
 
Had never thought of using individual covers like yours ED.

Is the stitching not strong enough to hold the chisel? Seems to me the stitching would be good enough. Unless you are cutting the stitching when inserting the chisel.

I like a tool roll for storing chisels when not being used. Tough to get one that matches the size, length and number of chisels in a set though.

I have a conglomeration set of old USA made chisels. Some Stanley and some Greenlee that I have had since I was in my early twenties. They have been rolled up in a terry cloth towel since I have owned them. Have always been going to have a tool roll made for them. Note that this old set seldom sees any use.
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Reply #6 - Jun 11th, 2022 at 12:34pm
 
I think I would check for saddle makers or belt makers. Maybe some upholstery shops. They would probably have some sources...

Side note Ed, I am tuning up some of my dad's hand planes and my own bench chisels. This means exploring the wide wide world of stropping compounds. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to colors and grits.... Drives me nuts. I did discover that DMT makes diamond lapping plates up to 8000 grit now. They also have diamond stropping compounds in 1, 2, and 3 micron grits, which translates to about 15000, 8000, and 4000 grits. So, how do you put that final edge on your chisels???

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Reply #7 - Jun 11th, 2022 at 2:28pm
 
I did leather work when I lived in Boston. But that was 45 years ago. Still have the tools in a special box. They started to use plastic for the stamps around 1976. Fiebing's ( Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register ) is best place for dies and leather prep.  Quick look on internet and found this place. Rivets are solid shaft. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register


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I got out of leatherwork when I moved to Texas as they don't have very many good leather suppliers here. I don't like Tandy.
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Reply #8 - Jun 11th, 2022 at 3:08pm
 
Ed, Have you ever tried a Pop Rivet tool. they have 1/8 and 3/16 shafts and all you need to do is sqeeze the handleds ?
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Reply #9 - Jun 11th, 2022 at 4:16pm
 
Well, you'll probably be sorry you asked.
My philosophy is this;

When you take a turning tool straight off the grinder and it cuts like a scalpel for a few seconds and then it becomes what I call "working sharp". The tool then stays working sharp for a long time until resharpening is needed.
Now, while I would like it to stay razor sharp, the laws of the physical don't allow for this. All we can hope for is "sharp" for as long as possible.
With bench, firmer, paring and all flat working chisels,  I follow the "working sharp" philosophy. One main reason is ROI, return on investment.
With turning tools, you can achieve scary sharp in a few seconds at the wheel, this is not the case at all with flat working chisels.
Sure I can take an hour and get it suoer-duper sharp but it just won't last. I can use every method and product devised to get that perfect edge, only to find it dulls to working sharp in a short amount of use.

So, having said all that, I sharpen my chisels on a granite reference plate, using abrasive paper. One bevel, no secondary, no micro, one flat bevel. however, a small (micro) bevel is created organically (no need to try and create one myself) after I'm done sharpening. I lightly drag the chisel (under it's own weight) back accross the final grit to remove any burr created before any stropping or polishing is done. I use a Veritas MK2 honing guide and rarely go above 600 grit. I don't use honing compound. I do strop occasionally and sometimes go to the buffing wheel to polish. I do have a couple of small DMT pocket hones for a quick touch up, if I'm out of the shop.
Anything more is a waste of my time, the edge one can achieve by sharpening further up the grit scale is fleeting at best.
Here is a close up of a normal sharp chisel in my shop.
Highest grit, 500 and a 10 second buff on a normal dry wheel (no compound).

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Reply #10 - Jun 12th, 2022 at 2:02pm
 
Well Ed, I am new to this part of woodworking, well, not new exactly, but getting back into learning the hand tools. I think the whole point of the micro bevel is that it takes seconds to get back to scary sharp, then after extended sharpenings on the micro bevel, you need to go back and reshape the primary bevel. I do have the Veritas guides for chisels and plane irons. The brass roller can be rotated to put on the micro bevel without changing anything else. Even 1000 grit, or now most are 1200 grit stones will leave a burr, and that burr needs to go away. I watched Eric Loffstrom dull his skew on the lathe bed, sharpen it with a 60 grit CBN wheel, then strop it. It shaved his arm easily.

Like with my swimming, always some thing new to experiment with....

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Reply #11 - Jun 12th, 2022 at 3:10pm
 
I don't use the micro bevel feature on the guide. It's nice for those who prefer it that way but as you can see from my photo, it's just not necessary IMO.
For reference, this is the chisel pictured above.
You can tell that the previous owner did not have an even bevel on it. After a few more sharpenings it will even out.
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